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Originally posted by The Dark Side of Will View PostIf modern DME can be cracked enough for a swap, the real beauty would be the N26... significantly lighter than the N54, but still capable of 300 HP/350TQ
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Originally posted by nando View PostI don't doubt that it will happen eventually - but it's even harder than the S54 was. The DME uses RSA encryption for one. That might actually be a case where aftermarket management makes more sense - if there was one that supported valvetronic!
I've heard about an outfit called Engine Labs, which is supposed to have some pretty awesome features.
There are also some of the options NPavlo mentioned.
RSA encryption on the DME? That's tough. Is that what's necessary to flash it? IE, if you do a .bin dump it comes out encrypted?
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Somebody do it...
But with these....
(gtx3071R x 2. GTX3582R's also fit)
I know, it won't fit. Let me dream. On the 335i the rear WG sits in a little pocket that I am sure the e30 doesnt have... and i can imagine that rear turbo would never fit.
In terms of the swap electronics, My company makes a port injection intake manifold spacer so you can run 6 extra injectors. I am sure you can use it to run a full non-DI standalone and be able to not have to use the stock ECU. Although you do loose all the benefits of D.I., it makes it so much easier. Bisimoto is doing it on the ecoboost mustang and running a Infinity. Seems like the easy way out to me, but it's the quickest route to getting the N54 running in an e30.
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Originally posted by mitchlevy7 View PostSomebody do it...
But with these....
(gtx3071R x 2. GTX3582R's also fit)
I know, it won't fit. Let me dream. On the 335i the rear WG sits in a little pocket that I am sure the e30 doesnt have... and i can imagine that rear turbo would never fit.
In terms of the swap electronics, My company makes a port injection intake manifold spacer so you can run 6 extra injectors. I am sure you can use it to run a full non-DI standalone and be able to not have to use the stock ECU. Although you do loose all the benefits of D.I., it makes it so much easier. Bisimoto is doing it on the ecoboost mustang and running a Infinity. Seems like the easy way out to me, but it's the quickest route to getting the N54 running in an e30.
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Originally posted by mitchlevy7 View PostSomebody do it...
But with these....
(gtx3071R x 2. GTX3582R's also fit)
I know, it won't fit. Let me dream. On the 335i the rear WG sits in a little pocket that I am sure the e30 doesnt have... and i can imagine that rear turbo would never fit.
In terms of the swap electronics, My company makes a port injection intake manifold spacer so you can run 6 extra injectors. I am sure you can use it to run a full non-DI standalone and be able to not have to use the stock ECU. Although you do loose all the benefits of D.I., it makes it so much easier. Bisimoto is doing it on the ecoboost mustang and running a Infinity. Seems like the easy way out to me, but it's the quickest route to getting the N54 running in an e30.
Dat torque converter tho!!
Curious of what the torque/hp curve of something like this is though compared to a 450hp m20... (Even with that silly fluid filled thing sucking away all of its hopes and dreams)The best one-stop shopping for German car parts and lifestyle: http://www.gutenparts.com/
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Originally posted by grinchxvx View PostDream swap, my FBO 135i only makes 400whp 450ftlbs and it spins the tires in 1-3rd. I couldn't imagine that in a e30������
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkOriginally posted by nando View PostNo different than a turbo m20 or m50 would be.
Actually the best thing about the n54 is reduced weight, you can already make more power than most n54s make with a simple m50, or even an m20.
running 500-550hp daily?
More balls than I have, I don't like to baby cars with lots of power.
If you think the best thing about the N54 is reduced weight compared to older engines, then why aren't you going with M54? It seems the n52 crowd seems to prefer the Rawness of the M54 compared to the N52, not to mention reliability and cost; Z4 owners are a good example.
I understand you're N52 biased but dang, can we keep this a little more factual? You're comparing motors that need to be reworked, to a FBO engine that hasn't been touched internally, that will run hell of a lot more smooth. Apples to apples not so much. Additionally, as you've mentioned, who needs even 450hp in an e30 that's a lot of go , and if I have that hp, it should drive comfortable for a daily. Not to mention the Torque curve of the N54 is just amazing!!!
People are in the 600hp+ with bolt ons, and turbo/turbos nothing done internally, great start for anyone who wants to make power without paying labor costs on engine builds, and assuming you're doing the labor yourself, imagine what you could do with an N54. This forum has tons of gentleman willing to take a dive for discovery.:D
At least with my experience comparing to my M30b35 build I had already spent more on JUST the turbo parts, than I payed for my whole N54B30 with wiring, and all modules. I hadn't even purchased a turbo for my m30 build yet.
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Originally posted by Northern View PostIf I wanted bigger turbos on an N54, I'd just go RB's. Pretty excessive to go beyond that.
With this community I'm going to assume most will save a ton of money by fabbing their own top mount,
and throwing on a turbo that is similar to what is supported in mainstream use for the N54 for the sake of simplicity. awesome plan if you ask me.Last edited by the imitator; 01-02-2016, 05:39 PM.
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Originally posted by the imitator View PostNot sure if I'd trust an M50 stock internals never cracked open,
running 500-550hp daily?
More balls than I have, I don't like to baby cars with lots of power.
Originally posted by the imitator View Postwhy aren't you going with M54?
At least the N52 seems to be more rev happy, and has a much sturdier split crankcase. Cool new tech like valvetronic seems to be a bonus if the ecu is possible to use with a swap.
Originally posted by the imitator View PostI think for those who actually want to do this swap, wont be resorting to companies the build off stock frames.
With this community I'm going to assume most will save a ton of money by fabbing their own top mount,
and throwing on a turbo that is similar to what is supported in mainstream use for the N54 for the sake of simplicity. awesome plan if you ask me.Originally posted by priapismMy girl don't know shit, but she bakes a mean cupcake.Originally posted by shamesonUsually it's best not to know how much money you have into your e30
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M/s52 flows better with a turbo than a n54 does... Food for thought.
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