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  • twright
    Mod Crazy
    • Sep 2008
    • 705

    #1

    No Tach

    I recently purchase a 1993 BMW 316i Touring (Yes, another one.)

    The car is in pretty good shape, but I am having trouble getting the tach to work. I have tried all of the usual things (i.e. swapped several know good clusters, verified good power coming all the way from fuse 41, swapped several known good SI boards, verified a solid square wave signal from the black wire on the blue connector on the back of the cluster, etc.) but I still can't get it to work.

    Anybody got any more things to look at?

    P.S. The fuel economy gauge doesn't work either.
  • 82eye
    E30 Mastermind
    • Jan 2009
    • 1841

    #2
    swapped tach will only work if it's off another 4 cyl car. i'm not certain an m42 tach will work but believe it should.

    check the SI batteries on the original board. if the tach or speedo doesn't work the econo gauge won't either.

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    • twright
      Mod Crazy
      • Sep 2008
      • 705

      #3
      I changed the SI batteries in the original board: no change. Still no Tach.

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      • 82eye
        E30 Mastermind
        • Jan 2009
        • 1841

        #4
        is the radio working ?

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        • AWDBOB
          R3V Elite
          • Aug 2013
          • 4369

          #5
          Originally posted by 82eye
          swapped tach will only work if it's off another 4 cyl car. .
          This is incorrect- 7k tachs are the same between 4 and 6cyl cars. Only coding plug is different between 4 and 6 cyl 7k tach

          Tom you almost certainly have a fuse 21 issue- especially since you had to get power to the radio from another source
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          • 82eye
            E30 Mastermind
            • Jan 2009
            • 1841

            #6
            Originally posted by AWDBOB

            This is incorrect- 7k tachs are the same between 4 and 6cyl cars. Only coding plug is different between 4 and 6 cyl 7k tach

            thought the tach determined the coding plug. i've also read fuse 12 as tach and radio and 21 for obc.

            edit : don't think 316i even has an obc. aren't they all clocks ?

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            • 82eye
              E30 Mastermind
              • Jan 2009
              • 1841

              #7
              Originally posted by AWDBOB

              Tom you almost certainly have a fuse 21 issue- especially since you had to get power to the radio from another source
              didn't add​ i'm guessing someone accidentally grounded the original radio circuit as well.

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              • twright
                Mod Crazy
                • Sep 2008
                • 705

                #8
                The radio did not have a battery connection and wouldn't work. I have connected the fuse 21 circuit to battery and the radio works now.

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                • twright
                  Mod Crazy
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 705

                  #9
                  My 316i has a clock and no obc.

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                  • 82eye
                    E30 Mastermind
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 1841

                    #10
                    Originally posted by twright
                    The radio did not have a battery connection and wouldn't work. I have connected the fuse 21 circuit to battery and the radio works now.
                    the tach is on the same circuit.

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                    • twright
                      Mod Crazy
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 705

                      #11
                      I have a Tach! It turns out the Fuse 21 wiring was NFG.

                      AWDBOB for the win!

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                      • 82eye
                        E30 Mastermind
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 1841

                        #12
                        Originally posted by twright
                        I have a Tach! It turns out the Fuse 21 wiring was NFG.

                        AWDBOB for the win!
                        nice work. thanks for posting the fix. wish more folk would do that.

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                        • Gtfour
                          Member
                          • Apr 2023
                          • 63

                          #13
                          I also have a tach question. I have a 318is. The tach is working but the rpm doesn’t match the actual engine rpm. It’s going to like half of the real rpm. Could it be mismatch parts from a 325 or early model? I bought it from a guy who had couples of E30 and bunch of spare parts and I have parts frim couple different cars on it…
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                          • 82eye
                            E30 Mastermind
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 1841

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Gtfour
                            I also have a tach question. I have a 318is. The tach is working but the rpm doesn’t match the actual engine rpm. It’s going to like half of the real rpm. Could it be mismatch parts from a 325 or early model? I bought it from a guy who had couples of E30 and bunch of spare parts and I have parts frim couple different cars on it…
                            sounds like what you suspect.

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                            • Gtfour
                              Member
                              • Apr 2023
                              • 63

                              #15
                              Originally posted by 82eye

                              sounds like what you suspect.
                              Yes but if I have the 318is original cluster, what is the other part that isn’t compatible with it?
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