My Vert Custom Audio Install

[EN318isPDX]

LOL. The anger in your posts says it all Luke.

I can appreciate good bass, Ive heard your box and it does sound amazing, however........

Oh, never mind, your the shit!!! your boxes are the shit!!! You ARE gods gift to the community, blah blah blah......

I wouldn't go that far but if someone screwed you over for <1000 you would be singing a different tune.

Better OP didn't see this coming! LOL

[Sean S.]

Yes, I received my amp rack, your highly touted, superior product you refer to countless times as "shit" .. I got it; Even posted about it. I've never questioned the quality of your products Luke, just the time it took to get said product and the spin you try put on things when called on the carpet.

Again, I wish you, GAS and anyone who chooses to buy from GAS the best of luck.

Sean

[Thizzelle]

he didn't have the port design until someone told him (not directly but raised the question) on the thread soooo......
I built a box for my M3 which is pretty much a luke box but I had never seen it before, it was before I was even on this forum. You can only do so much in building a sub box for these tiny trunks.

[Gregs///M]

Do you really think you are the first and only one to ever install a tuned port into the cabin? Please realize that the E30 is not the only convertible made with this problem (getting bass into the cabin of a vert.) Many car manufacturers have this issue.

Do you think you are the only car installer who has ever tackled this problem? There has been hundreds of thousands of installers since the early 1980's and you think you are the only one who had to solve this problem of getting sound into the cabin? And solving by using a tuned port, chassis cavity or not.

I can give you props for your tuning capabilities, which is the most difficult aspect, but to say your design is original and "one of a kind," that's truly ridiculous. I've personally seen this very similar design on a variety of cars. Perhaps you don't pay attention to national publications regarding car audio. Perhaps you have not seen your design anywhere locally or on the E30 chassis. But I assure you and the rest of the R3V, tuning ports into the cabin is not anything new and has been tried by thousands of installers throughout the decades. I've seen it in car audio magazines, I've seen it in sound off and sound quality competitions, and I've seen it in other car's that have come into my shop, and I've personally fed tuned ports into cabins many times.

And Luke, you need to chill out man. Blasting your customers in front of the public forum only makes you look worse. Its no wonder you are losing sales. It would be more ideal to speak with them privately and be more kind since they've actually paid you and help support your bills. You of all people should know, when you treat your customers right, they will in turn bring you more word of mouth business. However, cussing and chewing them out will only turn them against you.

[Justin B]

So facepalm.

Guys, I always stay way the hell out of all this nonsense, because there's always so much of it, Luke has been on top of it and I can't keep track when there's nothing but his accounts with questions and payments and all the PR things. But....

With Luke working, I will be building a lot of the boxes now, and am sure will be taking much more of an active role dealing with inquiries and customers. I hate seeing this garbage on a public forum going off so bad. Truth is told, but holy fuck Luke, yeah we've been through a world of shit but bad PR only magnifies if the trolls are fed juicy posts.

Therefore, think what you want guys. I'm clearly not going to change your vicious thoughts about what sort of terrible people we are in a post. All I could do is reinforce it by letting anger bleed through onto the keyboard, or slow/stop the bleeding with a neutral post.

What I can tell you though is we'll have this whole mess straightened up and sanitary, with maintained inventory, and soon. Just you watch.

Justin

[treff-7]

And, last I heard, it is completely normal for a business to collect funding to develop a product and then use sales of that freshly developed product to fund delivery of said product...in fact, you stupid fuck, that IS how it works for most manufacturers. In ALL of these disputed cases, these guys paid us KNOWING they were paying for developmental products. In our case, sales dropped 75% over-fucking-night, right along with a huge hike in gasoline prices. Well, we got caught with our ass out. Thus, fucking A, another company with poor funding run by enthusiasts just may yet bite the dust.

Luke

First of all I told you my honest opinion. Take it or leave it. I hoped that it was going to be a constructive criticism. You can say I'm wrong if you have a different opinion but calling me names is not the way. This is the exact behavior I was talking about. You would have more business if you didn't do this crap. Your "shit" is superior, hands down but dealing with you is just a nightmare.

This is not what I was talking about but for small businesses collecting funds for developing a new product is normal, I agree but leaving the people who paid in the dark for months is not. Even if you lost your shop. You keep them updated instead of ignoring them. It is uncomfortable to talk about it but if they know about your situation that you need time to set up a new shop, etc. most of them will give you a break. I would. I would also ask if there's a way I could help to get back on your feet.

I understand that other things have happened that you could not control right when the box was ready to go. It's unfortunate but I still think what I said earlier was one of the reasons why GAS is where it is.

I hope you find a way to get back on your feet and make GAS profitable and successful!

And again this is my opinion. You are free to have yours but keep in mind that I'm not one of the guys who stood you up, who you are so angry at.

[treff-7]

Do you really think you are the first and only one to ever install a tuned port into the cabin? Please realize that the E30 is not the only convertible made with this problem (getting bass into the cabin of a vert.) Many car manufacturers have this issue.

Do you think you are the only car installer who has ever tackled this problem? There has been hundreds of thousands of installers since the early 1980's and you think you are the only one who had to solve this problem of getting sound into the cabin? And solving by using a tuned port, chassis cavity or not.

I can give you props for your tuning capabilities, which is the most difficult aspect, but to say your design is original and "one of a kind," that's truly ridiculous. I've personally seen this very similar design on a variety of cars. Perhaps you don't pay attention to national publications regarding car audio. Perhaps you have not seen your design anywhere locally or on the E30 chassis. But I assure you and the rest of the R3V, tuning ports into the cabin is not anything new and has been tried by thousands of installers throughout the decades. I've seen it in car audio magazines, I've seen it in sound off and sound quality competitions, and I've seen it in other car's that have come into my shop, and I've personally fed tuned ports into cabins many times.

And Luke, you need to chill out man. Blasting your customers in front of the public forum only makes you look worse. Its no wonder you are losing sales. It would be more ideal to speak with them privately and be more kind since they've actually paid you and help support your bills. You of all people should know, when you treat your customers right, they will in turn bring you more word of mouth business. However, cussing and chewing them out will only turn them against you.

I don't think he's problem is this. That the OP used a port. The problem is that he used Luke's idea of utilizing the dead space under the top compartment AND copied the exact design of his port tubes and their location to make it sound better.

The second part is 100% agreed. Exactly my point.

Justin:
It's good to see someone at GAS with his head on the right place. I wish you guys the best and hope you succeed! Your product is way too good to go to waste.

[golde30]

Dont get too cocky now, as good as your boxes are, most people couldn't tell the difference between yours and a ported swap meet box if their life depended on it. I mean for most people, a boom is a boom regardless of how was designed.

Really? I have been in the Car Stereo business for the last 6yrs on and off. I have had countless "off the shelf" boxes in my own car, and into customers cars. The shops i have worked at have even built custom enclosures for shows to the tune of $10K+, and while they looked awesome, they sounded like shit. Not only did these $10K custom sound systems sounds like shit, but they took 6months+ for the work.

I bought the V1 12" box from Luke years ago. I installed it into my e30 with an O K sub, and an O K amp. That shit pounds harder, and sounds cleaner than pretty much anything i have ever sold/installed. I have DEMO'd my car for countless customers, and sold TONS of subs/amps based on ppl hearing my sound system, of course they dont know that Lukes box is the real magic.

I have a CF trunk that ways as much as a heavy jacket, and it barely vibrates AT ALL. your typical off the shelf box will rattle the 44lb stock trunk all to hell, and would probably destroy the mounting points of a CF trunk. Coming from a stereo shops point of view, we could not build anything close to the box that Luke is selling for that small price. I mean a custom box with no engineering behind it is gonna run our customers $400+, with NO PORTING!

So whats the point? For the price you guys are paying for Lukes box, there is really no room to complain, even if it takes forever and a day to get. You WILL get it, but you WILL NOT be able to get another shop to make the same quality box for the same $$$, its just not gonna happen.

[Justin B]

Your word is good and true, Cary. Thank you.

This is a two man operation guys, we cannot just snap our fingers and make it all better. On our end however, we are trying to crank everything out but with the circumstances over the last few months, that has been very very difficult. There are boxes on the saw right now. I genuinely care and want a good reputation back. I am not balding yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if I had no hair left in a couple years...is this stressful? Nooooo not at all!!!

[bmw325csi]

To Golde30: I said MOST people, you, as someone in the industry are not MOST people

[ForcedFirebird]

To Golde30: I said MOST people, you, as someone in the industry are not MOST people

Some people like the trunk rattle, I guess. That's a tell tale sign of a good system when it's not.

[EN318isPDX]

Some people like the trunk rattle, I guess. That's a tell tale sign of a good system when it's not.

My ported box would vibrate my tail lights out of the socket. Got pulled over a few times for it. Lukebox could save you from a DUI!

[MC Hammered]

My ported box would vibrate my tail lights out of the socket. Got pulled over a few times for it. Lukebox could save you from a DUI!

Now if that isn't some fantastic marketing right there!

[Schnitzer318is]

I'm still waiting for pics of the completed setup...

Not sure how it sounds in comparison to a Lukebox as I have not heard one in a vert... but do own and run one in one of my coupes.

Luke's products really are top notch but the tirades I've seen him go on (this one included) can be somewhat off putting. I wish him nothing but success with GAS but having a product copied is nothing to lose your head over. I lost a business (yes the whole business, not just some business) to another manufacturer copying my product and mass producing it on CNC machines. All my stuff was hand made... who do you think was able to sell for cheaper?

Anyway, I'll say the same thing I said when I was talking to Mark D about his chips... people will take your research and hard work and either use it as is or expand on it. That's the way it goes. Don't call the end users who buy ebay chips, or in this case a box design, a bunch of names. They are just trying to save some money/time and I can't say I blame them.

[BadfishTX]

Final Pics.