Noob questions! Wanting to turbo my M20. School me on the turbooos r3v!

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  • jaywood
    R3V Elite
    • Jul 2010
    • 4528

    #16
    Originally posted by ///mfizzle
    1. How much is this going to run me? $1K? $2k? $4k? I don't mind buying a used kit. Nothing fancy, I just want around 250whp. and a COMPLETE bolt on kit. Is the M20 even capable of that power on stock block?

    It can cost 1k, or it can cost 5k. It's all about how much you're willing to spend. A complete bolt on kit? Have you thought about putting your own together? It's cheaper sometimes. And yes, the stock block can handle that.

    2. My car is an automatic, so I would be converting it into manual. Will an E36 M3 Transmission bolt up to the M20? I'm not a big fan of the E30 manual transmission.

    Why don't you like the g260 trans? A lot of the guys who go turbo keep the stock trans (some put in a new "race" clutch)

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    • F34R
      sLaughter
      • May 2009
      • 12376

      #17
      Originally posted by ak-
      Bottom end will be okay for those goals.
      A "kit" doesn't really exist. eBay ones are just generic crap put together for you that is usually.. well, crap. You have to most likely peice your own.

      E30tech.com will answer all your questions
      R3v is a swap forum mostly :o
      This^

      and why can't people search something over covered beyond the "what does this button above my window switches do?

      And next time search the FS section... http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/show...42#post2802042
      Last edited by F34R; 10-16-2011, 06:32 AM.
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      • ForcedFirebird
        R3V OG
        • Feb 2007
        • 8300

        #18
        Originally posted by ZekeTheSneak
        Mane issue is finding a fuel management. Stock with piggy backs is just retarded in my book go standalone. Comedic headgasket to be safe
        Motronic is tunable with the right equipment.
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        • F34R
          sLaughter
          • May 2009
          • 12376

          #19
          Originally posted by ZekeTheSneak
          Comedic headgasket to be safe
          It's cometic* and order from WOT-Tech, hands down the best place to buy. Also they support the BMW crowd. I believe Forcedfirebird on here works/owns it? not sure. And order a set of APR head studs to go with that gasket and boost =) WOT-Tech offers those too.

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          • ///mfizzle
            Noobie
            • Sep 2010
            • 36

            #20
            Thanks for the help guys!


            Originally posted by 325ix
            Before you do anything, go to e30tech and read until your eyes bleed.
            Hahaha will do!

            Originally posted by ForcedFirebird
            Drive across the alley and our shop can put something together for you :)

            http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=224729
            I'll definitely give you guys a call. Looks like I'll be going with a custom setup.

            Originally posted by ZekeTheSneak
            Mane issue is finding a fuel management. Stock with piggy backs is just retarded in my book go standalone. Comedic headgasket to be safe
            Looks like I'll be going with MS. Thanks :D


            Originally posted by F34R
            It's cometic* and order from WOT-Tech, hands down the best place to buy. Also they support the BMW crowd. I believe Forcedfirebird on here works/owns it? not sure. And order a set of APR head studs to go with that gasket and boost =) WOT-Tech offers those too.

            http://wot-tech.com/shop/bmw/cometic.../prod_308.html
            Thanks! I'll grab this and some APR studs :up:


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            • ///mfizzle
              Noobie
              • Sep 2010
              • 36

              #21
              Originally posted by [URL="http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/member.php?u=27026"
              jaywood[/URL];2802049]

              It can cost 1k, or it can cost 5k. It's all about how much you're willing to spend. A complete bolt on kit? Have you thought about putting your own together? It's cheaper sometimes. And yes, the stock block can handle that.

              Why don't you like the g260 trans? A lot of the guys who go turbo keep the stock trans (some put in a new "race" clutch)
              I've decided to put my own kit together. I'll do my research and figure it out. It's good to know the stock block can handle the power. I'll do a cometic head gasket and APR studs. But that's it. As I stated above. The previous 5 speed E30s I've owned and driven, the transmission feels very sloppy and warn out (Because they probably were) I tried to fix the slop in mine with a short shift kit, all new bushing, a new carrier, and selector rod. And it still felt horrible. I've never driven an E30 with a nice feeling transmission. I like the e36 transmission. There cheap, and a friend said they bolt up to the m20. So I just wanted to see if this was true.


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              1991 Alpine white 325is = Daily Driver

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              • ForcedFirebird
                R3V OG
                • Feb 2007
                • 8300

                #22
                They bolt up but the angle on the later ZF trans (from e36) is about 12 degrees different and will have to be dealt with on install.

                You don't NEED MS, we burn custom chips for Motronic.
                john@m20guru.com
                Links:
                Transaction feedback: Here, here and here. Thanks :D

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                • samiam3356
                  E30 Mastermind
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 1901

                  #23
                  Here's you interesting read as well for what you can do with the stock ECU


                  Originally posted by Roysneon
                  $5 shipped?
                  Originally posted by MarkD
                  You are a strange dude, I'n not answering any more posts from you.

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                  • White325is
                    R3V Elite
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 5947

                    #24
                    If you want a complete bolt on kit, why not purchase a TCD kit?

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                    • 325ix
                      R3V OG
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 7783

                      #25
                      Originally posted by White325is
                      If you want a complete bolt on kit, why not purchase a TCD kit?
                      $$$$ judging by his car in the sig though he could swing it. Also check out dedric motorsports.

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                      • ///mfizzle
                        Noobie
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 36

                        #26
                        Originally posted by ForcedFirebird
                        They bolt up but the angle on the later ZF trans (from e36) is about 12 degrees different and will have to be dealt with on install.

                        You don't NEED MS, we burn custom chips for Motronic.
                        I will definitely be paying you a visit soon! I'm wanting to keep A/C. Will this be a problem?

                        Thanks!

                        Originally posted by samiam3356
                        Here's you interesting read as well for what you can do with the stock ECU

                        http://www.e30tech.com/forum/showthread.php?t=98922
                        Thankya. Reading now!



                        Originally posted by White325is
                        If you want a complete bolt on kit, why not purchase a TCD kit?
                        I think it would be more fun to build one. Although the TCD kit does look nice :puppy:

                        Originally posted by 325ix
                        $$$$ judging by his car in the sig though he could swing it. Also check out dedric motorsports.
                        Awesome! Thanks for the info.


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                        1991 Alpine white 325is = Daily Driver

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                        • ForcedFirebird
                          R3V OG
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 8300

                          #27
                          Well, this job has A/C, P/S, but don't expect the I/C to fit behind the kidneys lol.

                          Where in Naples? We are 1hr from exit 99.
                          john@m20guru.com
                          Links:
                          Transaction feedback: Here, here and here. Thanks :D

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                          • mRodiek
                            E30 Addict
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 597

                            #28
                            This thread got hit with some awesome links & advice!

                            Sticky it in the Forced Induction section
                            Originally posted by e30lov
                            sweet a mk4 jetta, haven't seen one of them for about 14 seconds
                            Adventures of an E30

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                            • ///mfizzle
                              Noobie
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 36

                              #29
                              Originally posted by ForcedFirebird
                              Well, this job has A/C, P/S, but don't expect the I/C to fit behind the kidneys lol.

                              Where in Naples? We are 1hr from exit 99.
                              Awesome! I can deal with that. As long as I have my icey AC that's all that matters lol

                              I'm at exit 111 so not to much further! Do you have a number I can contact? Or an email address?

                              Thanks!

                              Originally posted by mRodiek
                              This thread got hit with some awesome links & advice!

                              Sticky it in the Forced Induction section
                              Yesssiiirrrr


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