is 300 WHP (N/A)reachable with 10.5 compression?

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  • german g
    E30 Mastermind
    • Feb 2006
    • 1608

    #1

    is 300 WHP (N/A)reachable with 10.5 compression?

    is 300 WHP (N/A)reachable with 10.5 compression?

    to end an argument I'm having..:D
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  • MrK
    Mod Crazy
    • Jan 2006
    • 709

    #2
    yup. 400 even... (s62 lol).

    With an m20b25... don't think so.
    This is your M20 on steroids:

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    • Beej '86 325es
      R3VLimited
      • Feb 2004
      • 2639

      #3
      right... :roll:

      I don't remember the exact numbers, but I heard BMP's E30 (when it had a tricked out M20 in it), was only putting out somewhere in the range of 220-250. And that was 11/1 CR with individual throttle bodies.
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      • THM3
        Wrencher
        • Sep 2005
        • 230

        #4
        What about if you sourced a Racing Dynamics 24v head? I am thinking that displacemnt has a lot to do with this, that is why usually the higher the liter the more power you can squeeze with out FI.

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        • MrK
          Mod Crazy
          • Jan 2006
          • 709

          #5
          AFAIK the RD 24v head only exists on paper. I've never known one to exist in real life. So that kinda takes care of that option :P
          This is your M20 on steroids:

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          • Ryan Stewart
            I Love Miatas
            • Oct 2003
            • 8978

            #6
            Well volumetric efficiency is pretty important. Most production engines arent all that efficient. You can make an engine 4 bajillion liters but if you are only getting a liter of clean air and gas in there on each revolution then its not going to do you a damn bit of good.

            You might be able to get 300whp out of an M20 but it isnt going to resemble anything you had before and you could have bought an E46 M3 by the time you were done (at least).
            Im now E30less.
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            • german g
              E30 Mastermind
              • Feb 2006
              • 1608

              #7
              Ooops, should have put M20, with any mods, just has to stay at 10.5...
              90is, longtube headers/straight pipe/mark d 18# 93 0ctane chip/18# injectors/vogtland springs/bilst. sports


              :firehop:

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              • Ryan Stewart
                I Love Miatas
                • Oct 2003
                • 8978

                #8
                Well, if you can get its VE near 100 and make it turn 10,000rpm its possible, in theory.
                Im now E30less.
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                • PeaveyBassist
                  No R3VLimiter
                  • Sep 2004
                  • 3511

                  #9
                  Possible with a bajillion dollars? Yes. Possible with a couple thousand dollars even? No. At least IMO.

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                  • AdironRider
                    No R3VLimiter
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 3491

                    #10
                    Not going to happen. Plain and simple
                    Back to my roots

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                    • Stu Mc
                      R3V Elite
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 4083

                      #11
                      No, with the camshaft necessary to pull that kind of power, you're going to need to bring on more compression than that. (Plus you'd be getting very few hours out of it)

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                      • chuckybob
                        E30 Modder
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 952

                        #12
                        its possible, but i doubt it can be done on a 2.9 litre m20. needs moar 4 litre.
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                        • Stu Mc
                          R3V Elite
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 4083

                          #13
                          Originally posted by chuckybob
                          its possible, but i doubt it can be done on a 2.9 litre m20. needs moar 4 litre.

                          huh?

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                          • Digitalwave
                            is a poseur
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 6276

                            #14
                            Originally posted by german g
                            Ooops, should have put M20, with any mods, just has to stay at 10.5...
                            No. In fact, I would venture to say no where even remotely close. Actually, I don't even think 300 at the crank would be realistic.

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                            • 2002maniac
                              R3V Elite
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 4260

                              #15
                              Possible with a turbo and race gas.

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