disapointed in 2.8 stroker...

[aaron325ix]

You can run a virtual machine on your laptop to host the war software in xp. works well.

VMware is what I use.

As far as cam goes, a mate is daily driving a 2.8 with a 284/272 and it is a smooth as a babies bum. Mine is a dbilas 276 and no stalling either with ac on.

Both tuning war chips and mafs. You should have better drivability than what you have with that setup.

Looked at that, but again I only have windows 7 home premium, which will not work with that XP mode...

[clarkson]

I think my laptop is windows 7 home premium too, I will check when I get to work. its not a mode, its an application you buy or borrow....

[Sirotto]

Get a cup of coffee and read read read.

http://www.e30tech.com/forum/showthread.php?t=98922

This is the route i am going with a cammed Seta build.

[aaron325ix]

Bumping this up cause I don't want to repost the specs of the build which are in the first post. But now my biggest problem with the new motor is fuel consumption. Im talking like 14mpg or worse! Is this breed of stroker just prone to this type of fuel consumption? Looking to where I should start to alleviate this a bit. If Nando could perhaps chime in as his motor was once very similar to mine. Maybe I need an adjustable FPR?

[downforce22]

Not sure whats going on but it sounds like you're not tuned right. I was about to go down the war chip route and realized most everybody I talked to had bad experiences. Also I think a cam would help you feel better top end power. My stroker felt to trail off in the higher rpms. Have you tried running the stock ecu with afm? My 3.0 stroker ix felt so torque-y compared to my stock m20 ix and it was running 173 ecu.

[Cabriolet]

im gonna still go with everyone else. get a proper tune and dump the miller. i've seen so many issues with people running those have having issues. most of the tunes for the miller and m20 are for the 2.5" no the 3" which causes huge issues. your current setup is simular to a friend of mine. hes going over 200whp/wtq with a chip, headers, 2.8L, 274 cam, m30 afm and his has hella power. and is 100% streetable

[digger]

have you bothered to have it tuned properly?

[darvo]

MegaSquirt Tune!

[nando]

Ditch the miller kit

I have the same setup, you could use my tune.

Cam timing could also be an issue

I'd even consider putting in a stock chip and afm, i bet it will run better.

Aslo, skip an adjustable fpr - there is no purpose when you can adjust the tune.

[nando]

what is your final compression now?

here's your issue "schrick cam 284/272" for street-ability 284 is way too aggressive. 274/272 is a great cam for your build. 284-286 should only be for track rats.

Sorry but you are wrong. The 284/272 is perfect for street use. The 272 is better suited to a stockish motor.

[bradnic]

Update?

So nando if you were just starting how would you proceed with a build like this? The first post looks solid to me. Just a WAR thing?

[digger]

you would probably want to check the following as a matter of course after doing a rebuild and then looking at getting a good tune
- compression / leakdown,
- intake leaks
- fuel pressure,
- clean injectors
- filters in good shape
- check plugs
make sure everything is actually running as well as can be

[Cabriolet]

Sorry but you are wrong. The 284/272 is perfect for street use. The 272 is better suited to a stockish motor.

i mean to each his own. i would hate DDing that in traffic and then trying to pass CA smog would be hell. and it would also drive like my m3, where you having nothing bellow 2k rpms and then with the AC on would make it worse.

[nando]

yeah, not true. experience > speculation.

it idles just fine at 700rpm even on a stock motor/DME - there's not much change in low end torque, especially considering you should be using this with a larger displacement motor that will have more torque to begin with.

I had zero issues with it on a stock motor using A/C, except that valve clearance was too tight and of course the cam's potential wasn't fully realized. when I switched to the stroker bottom end, I still had the stock DME and AC worked just fine. fuel economy was within 1-2mpg.

I'm not sure how much problems it would have passing CA smog, but I bet it could be done.

[Cabriolet]

yeah, not true. experience > speculation.

true but i do have experience and speaking out of experience in driving it with that cam on a stroker. while it was a pleasure to drive, i could never ever daily that. the brutal shaking and 5 minute warm-up was drive-able but hardly what i would ever consider DD. and you cant pass the CA sniffer with it.

true while the back half of the cam isnt really a track grind. the 284 front makes the bumper to bumper drive, that most of us in CA deal with daily not as pleasant. the is literally the reason i bought an eta. i rarely get above 40mph and i spend a good 10min of my commute stopped. A rough idle and a power band that i spend 1% of my drive in, becomes less and less fun as weeks turn into months.