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  • 10Toes
    Me Father Was A Tree
    • Jan 2008
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    #16

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    • KIRIEIW
      No R3VLimiter
      • Dec 2012
      • 3385

      #17
      victor reinz gaskets

      Originally posted by Cabriolet
      This is so true. I have never once seen a VR HG last more than 25k miles. they have interior construction. This is a fact with solid proof. I now only use Goetez or BMW HGs. Never once had or seen an issue with any engine I built using these gaskets.
      I used a victor reinz head gasket in my car with no problems? Also cabriolet my friends car has a victor reinz gasket with some airline sealer, my dad and me used sealer on every gasket on his engine (except head because its not suppose to be applied there) but this kid does a really crappy job with cleaning parts, removing them, ect. Pretty sure he contacted you about his little project he has going on.


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      Last edited by KIRIEIW; 01-07-2014, 06:30 PM.


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      • Cabriolet
        R3V OG
        • Apr 2010
        • 9620

        #18
        ya he did. i told him that i would not install the engine with the crap VR HG&bolts.
        Much wow
        I hate 4 doors

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        • z122643
          Wrencher
          • Aug 2011
          • 286

          #19
          I have had problems with all VR products I have used, from valve stem seals to head gaskets. I don't really know why. But a prime example for the head gasket issue was I had two M20 engines, both were identical stock rebuilds. Both had decked heads and blocks. I used a VR on one and a BMW one on the other. The VR leaked coolant outward after ~30k the BMW one has 50k and no issue (knock on wood)
          Last edited by z122643; 01-07-2014, 10:13 AM.
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          • nando
            Moderator
            • Nov 2003
            • 34827

            #20
            Originally posted by SkiFree
            Sorry, but typically when someone complains of a VR hg leaking it's a red flag to me that they shouldn't be working on an engine.

            Are there better HG's available? Sure. but if done correctly the VR's work fine.
            I've done the VR M20 gasket properly.

            it still shit the bed after ~50k and leaked oil continuously after the first 10k. it started seeping coolant at about 25k.

            the difference in quality from the original BMW gasket and the VR gasket is indisputable.

            the other parts mostly seem fine to me. I have VR headbolts on the car now (installed with a Goetze HG).
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            • Jahman093
              Advanced Member
              • Sep 2012
              • 183

              #21
              thanks for all the help guys! I will definitely be using a different headgasket

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              • SkiFree
                R3VLimited
                • Jun 2011
                • 2766

                #22
                Originally posted by nando
                I've done the VR M20 gasket properly.

                it still shit the bed after ~50k and leaked oil continuously after the first 10k. it started seeping coolant at about 25k.

                the difference in quality from the original BMW gasket and the VR gasket is indisputable.

                the other parts mostly seem fine to me. I have VR headbolts on the car now (installed with a Goetze HG).
                I'm not disputing the quality difference, I'm disputing the negative stigma surrounding the VR gaskets. I've had them work fine for 50k many many times. Given the negative connotation around the VR's I tend to sell the elring upper kits (and oem or goetze standalone head gasket).

                For every person that's done a proper job and still had legitimate issues, there's 10 that use the "crappy gasket" excuse to write off a crappy installation (like not even bothering to resurface the head).
                Last edited by SkiFree; 01-07-2014, 09:19 PM.
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                • Cabriolet
                  R3V OG
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 9620

                  #23
                  Andrew, only one of the VR HG that i've installed that didnt fail was on my first eta. ( i aslo sold the car before i did 10k miles on it) i have decked and installed my HG according to spec and the utmost care and seen all three fail on the m20b25. i even installed them at night to ensure the coldest temperature possible.

                  however, i have not seen any VR gasket other than the headgasket fail.
                  Much wow
                  I hate 4 doors

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                  • wilholl
                    E30 Addict
                    • May 2012
                    • 518

                    #24
                    you guys are getting me very worried.
                    I have a VR gasket set to replace the head on my bronzit.
                    Now I don't want to use it, at least the head gasket anyway.
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                    • SkiFree
                      R3VLimited
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 2766

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Cabriolet
                      Andrew, only one of the VR HG that i've installed that didnt fail was on my first eta. ( i aslo sold the car before i did 10k miles on it) i have decked and installed my HG according to spec and the utmost care and seen all three fail on the m20b25. i even installed them at night to ensure the coldest temperature possible.

                      however, i have not seen any VR gasket other than the headgasket fail.
                      Fair enough, but I have seen legitimate failures for each head gasket including the OEM as well.
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                      • digger
                        R3V Elite
                        • Nov 2005
                        • 5912

                        #26
                        Originally posted by wilholl
                        you guys are getting me very worried.
                        I have a VR gasket set to replace the head on my bronzit.
                        Now I don't want to use it, at least the head gasket anyway.
                        go OEM or goetze, some parts are just not worth skimping on
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                        • TobyB
                          R3V Elite
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 5163

                          #27
                          VR is working for me just fine. When it fails, I'll replace it.

                          Because racecar.

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                          • bddog
                            Grease Monkey
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 351

                            #28
                            I ran into the head gasket problems years ago with my Datsun Roadster. Cast iron block with an aluminum head. The differentiated metals expand and contract at dissimilar rates.
                            A superior head gasket is needed. Use the best one available, to avoid premature failure.
                            Armed with this knowledge it seems almost criminal to install the inferior product. If it doesn't fail on you, then you are just passing the problem on to the next guy.

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                            • Earendil
                              E30 Mastermind
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 1662

                              #29
                              Originally posted by TobyB
                              VR is working for me just fine. When it fails, I'll replace it.

                              Because racecar.

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                              You, I like you.

                              Some of us don't want to pay $2000 to have a head gasket replaced prematurely. Others, well we're just looking for a reason to throw our heads on a bench and spiffy up more shit. Because racecar.
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                              • SkiFree
                                R3VLimited
                                • Jun 2011
                                • 2766

                                #30
                                Originally posted by bddog
                                I ran into the head gasket problems years ago with my Datsun Roadster. Cast iron block with an aluminum head. The differentiated metals expand and contract at dissimilar rates.
                                A superior head gasket is needed. Use the best one available, to avoid premature failure.
                                Armed with this knowledge it seems almost criminal to install the inferior product. If it doesn't fail on you, then you are just passing the problem on to the next guy.
                                Sorry but how does this relate? If you're looking for a more direct comparison, try the M10 engine where VR hg's are used routinely to great effect (and are a hair bit more expensive then some other options).
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