Dbilas vs Extruabody ITBs

[Sykohtic]

So after much deliberation about the choice between Supercharging and Turbocharging, I think I might just say f*** it all and build my M20. This will probably mean custom exhaust (I NEED long tube headers lol), some light headwork, a 3.0L Stroker, and an ITB kit (that's Individual Throttle Body if the acronym is unfamiliar to you, which it probably is anyway).

I know where the Stroker kit is coming from (unless someone has a better suggestion, Ireland Engineering) and where the long tubes are coming from (again IE, unless someone knows of a better set for cheaper) and I'll probably custom fab the rest of the exhaust including a custom muffler (because why the heck not?). However, I'm stuck on the ITB kit...

Extrudabody and Dbilas make them as full kits, however Extruda's kit doesnt come with the "Ice-box" intake to go on to of the ITBs.

Extrudas Kit:
http://www.extrudabody.com/servlet/t...M20-ITB/Detail

Dbilas Kit:
http://www.dbilas-shop.com/Products/...ubq7a2dh3alrj0

As you can see (after some international conversion) the Dbilas kit, though seemingly a more inclusive kit, is going to run me an extra grand, and thats before I have the thing shipped overseas to here in good ol' 'Merica. The Extruda kit is cheaper and I can get it from the US, so I just gotta ship it over land. So which one would you choose? I admit I have no clue how you can get away with running fuel injection without the Intake box design on the Dblias because dont you need some sort of MAF so the EMS can adjust fuel to match air intake? I have no clue if making such a box is easy at all? Help?

Additionally, if you know of another good kit that didn't turn up in my initial search, list it please and thanks :)

[LJ851]

So after much deliberation about the choice between Supercharging and Turbocharging, I think I might just say f*** it all and build my M20. This will probably mean custom exhaust (I NEED long tube headers lol), some light headwork, a 3.0L Stroker, and an ITB kit (that's Individual Throttle Body if the acronym is unfamiliar to you, which it probably is anyway).

I know where the Stroker kit is coming from (unless someone has a better suggestion, Ireland Engineering) and where the long tubes are coming from (again IE, unless someone knows of a better set for cheaper) and I'll probably custom fab the rest of the exhaust including a custom muffler (because why the heck not?). However, I'm stuck on the ITB kit...

Extrudabody and Dbilas make them as full kits, however Extruda's kit doesnt come with the "Ice-box" intake to go on to of the ITBs.

Extrudas Kit:
http://www.extrudabody.com/servlet/t...M20-ITB/Detail

Dbilas Kit:
http://www.dbilas-shop.com/Products/...ubq7a2dh3alrj0

As you can see (after some international conversion) the Dbilas kit, though seemingly a more inclusive kit, is going to run me an extra grand, and thats before I have the thing shipped overseas to here in good ol' 'Merica. The Extruda kit is cheaper and I can get it from the US, so I just gotta ship it over land. So which one would you choose? I admit I have no clue how you can get away with running fuel injection without the Intake box design on the Dblias because dont you need some sort of MAF so the EMS can adjust fuel to match air intake? I have no clue if making such a box is easy at all? Help?

Additionally, if you know of another good kit that didn't turn up in my initial search, list it please and thanks :)

Surely we don't know, yet you are the one asking questions?

[SkiFree]

Surely we don't know, yet you are the one asking questions?

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[digger]

neither of the two IMO.

steer clear of dbilas, have seen bad results on many builds. cant see extrudeabody being much better

https://www.racehead.com.au

alot cheaper and better, need to make an airbox like you would with extrudebody.

see my sig

[Sykohtic]

Surely we don't know, yet you are the one asking questions?

Well, if you'll take another look at how I worded it, and don't jump to conclusions , I was simply stating it in case someone was unfamiliar wit the acronym. I already assumed everyone here knew what individual throttle bodies were, I was just trying to be open to everyone who might know something about the topic, including those who just say individual throttle bodies and who aren't used to the acronym ITB. :) I'll be more exclusive next time :)

[Sykohtic]

neither of the two IMO.

steer clear of dbilas, have seen bad results on many builds. cant see extrudeabody being much better

https://www.racehead.com.au

alot cheaper and better, need to make an airbox like you would with extrudebody.

see my sig

Thanks a lot!! I'll take a look :)

[nando]

neither of the two IMO.

steer clear of dbilas, have seen bad results on many builds. cant see extrudeabody being much better

https://www.racehead.com.au

alot cheaper and better, need to make an airbox like you would with extrudebody.

see my sig

I was going to say the same thing.

dbilas ITBs is the cool part that everyone wanted but nobody could afford; the result is nobody really knew how poorly designed they are.

[whodwho]

...ITB kit (that's Individual Throttle Body if the acronym is unfamiliar to you, which it probably is anyway)...

Well, if you'll take another look at how I worded it, and don't jump to conclusions , I was simply stating it in case someone was unfamiliar wit the acronym. I already assumed everyone here knew what individual throttle bodies were, I was just trying to be open to everyone who might know something about the topic, including those who just say individual throttle bodies and who aren't used to the acronym ITB. :) I'll be more exclusive next time :)

Worded like you were assuming nobody knew what it meant to me ;)

http://www.racehead.com.au/ - No comparison in quality and design and price to the others you mentioned, and there are some serious examples of their use.

[Sykohtic]

Worded like you were assuming nobody knew what it meant to me ;)

http://www.racehead.com.au/ - No comparison in quality and design and price to the others you mentioned, and there are some serious examples of their use.

Yeah I'm definitely looking into the racehead system. I'm researching build threads to see how people construct the air box to hook up :)

And I see the word that's confusing everyone. That "is" after the comma in parentheses should be an "isn't". It was a swype auto correct I didn't catch when I posted from my phone. So I apologize for the disjoint in context and form. I still think the fact that I specifically stated reference only to the acronym itself covered the statement as I said before, but I can accept that the error causes confusion lol. What bothered me most is not at all that the person who replied called out my error, because if i make a mistake then that's my fault and it is my job to clarify my meaning, it was that they responded only to be sarcastic in said post since they left only said comment and then neglected to offer anything constructive at all in addition to that sarcasm. So I still have the question if they were, as they say, "so butthurt" by my error that they had nothing to say to actually add anything of value to the thread, why take the time to post at all? This is a forum, not a pissing contest. I don't mean to come across as ticked off myself, but if I wanted sarcastic remarks with no actual value as to my question, I'd post my questions on YouTube lol

Anyway, now that I've had my rant, thanks everyone whos filled me in on this and given me good info :) I'll look into racehead and construct a plan based on my additional research. :D

[Sykohtic]

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Though I have to admit, LOL xD <3

[LJ851]

You must be new here.

If don't want some quality abuse along with your answers, well i don't know what to say.

Read everything you can find posted by digger, this will answer most of your questions.

I could only agree with all the others responses so far.

[TobyB]

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quality abuse along with your answers

It's the R3v way.

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[Northern]

neither of the two IMO.

steer clear of dbilas, have seen bad results on many builds. cant see extrudeabody being much better

www.racehead.com.au

alot cheaper and better, need to make an airbox like you would with extrudebody.

see my sig

^+1 As everyone else already said, don't waste your time on the dbilas, and don't bother wasting your money on the extrudabody setup either.

RHD also has an ebay page (http://www.ebay.ca/usr/racinghardwar...p2047675.l2559) but you're better off ordering through their actual site.


The only thing I have an issue with on the RHD kit, is that I do not understand how the bitch tube hooks up. I don't see any provision for it at all.

[mpowerful]

The bitch tube is just an oil drain back? Couldnt it be plugged and run a catch can setup etc?

[whodwho]

The bitch tube goes into the manifold, it is just a passage for venting the block to the head. You can go with a cut stock manifold and flange, a set of Rowland manifolds or I believe he is also working on a manifold to offer up.