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    #16
    Well I am trying to keep it reasonably cheap hence the used Pistons, they were in really good shape apart from the number 1 ding. Ring lands measured out in spec. I guess I'm willing to gamble on them.

    I asked the shop about the deck and he said he'd check it for flatness and machine if needed. He said it was perfect and not to mess with it. That plus the o rings have me pretty confident in the HG seal. Have you seen many warped deck surfaces on these motors?
    1987 325es - Turbo Build - http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=379110
    1988 320i Touring

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      #17
      I don't cut the decks, either, unless there's a good reason to. Clean and straight is
      clean and straight, and I've never had a problem... and a cut deck adds another
      variable into the already not- trivial cc equation, especially when you're targetting a
      particular cc and sending parts off for work based on this...

      I do spend money on
      pistons, maybe because I'm a fool,
      maybe because the M10 seems to always eat them.

      If they measured ok, they should be fine.

      One of these lifetimes, I really wanna do this.

      t
      now, sometimes I just mess with people. It's more entertaining that way. george graves

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        #18
        Originally posted by TobyB View Post
        I don't cut the decks, either, unless there's a good reason to. Clean and straight is
        clean and straight, and I've never had a problem... and a cut deck adds another
        variable into the already not- trivial cc equation, especially when you're targetting a
        particular cc and sending parts off for work based on this...

        I do spend money on
        pistons, maybe because I'm a fool,
        maybe because the M10 seems to always eat them.

        If they measured ok, they should be fine.

        One of these lifetimes, I really wanna do this.

        t
        Sounds good, I'll run it and see how it holds up. I'm not going crazy with the boost (famous last words). 15-18psi at most.
        1987 325es - Turbo Build - http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=379110
        1988 320i Touring

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          #19
          Just doing small things while I wait for the head.

          Tried torquing the crank bolt but my weaksauce tool only held 220 ftlb so I'll have to beef it up.



          How do you guys normally torque the intermediate shaft pulley bolt? I'm assuming wait till the timing belt is installed?

          And got the fuel rail/deka 60lb injectors all in.


          I need to do some research on Fuel pressure regulators to see if I can run the seta unit. Also planning on drilling and tapping that intake manifold plate where the fpr vacuum source is so I can provide vacuum sources for the MS, waste gate, and BOV.

          I know lame update, much more to come next weekend once I get the head.
          1987 325es - Turbo Build - http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=379110
          1988 320i Touring

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            #20
            I have an intake plate off the b23 (731) head donor and it has a range of vacuum openings, cold start valve etc. I'll post a pic In case it turns out to be useful.

            I just use an old timing belt and vice grips to hold the pulley. It's not like the crank bolt in terms of torque.
            Seat Shocks....I have passed the baton to John Christy from Ninestitch. Email John or Garrett at ninestitch1@gmail.com

            https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...86#post4944786
            Alice the Time Capsule
            http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=360504
            87 Zinno Cabrio barn find 98k and still smells like a barn. Build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/show...20#post3455220

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              #21
              Originally posted by jeffnhiscars View Post
              I have an intake plate off the b23 (731) head donor and it has a range of vacuum openings, cold start valve etc. I'll post a pic In case it turns out to be useful.

              I just use an old timing belt and vice grips to hold the pulley. It's not like the crank bolt in terms of torque.
              Yeah I have the plate from the seta intake which has 2 ports so I could just tee one of them I guess.

              Also I threw away the old timing belt... Dammit. Oh well I should be able to get it once I get the new belt installed.
              1987 325es - Turbo Build - http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=379110
              1988 320i Touring

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                #22
                Originally posted by TobyB View Post
                I don't cut the decks, either, unless there's a good reason to. Clean and straight is
                clean and straight, and I've never had a problem... and a cut deck adds another
                variable into the already not- trivial cc equation, especially when you're targetting a
                particular cc and sending parts off for work based on this...

                I do spend money on
                pistons, maybe because I'm a fool,
                maybe because the M10 seems to always eat them.

                If they measured ok, they should be fine.

                One of these lifetimes, I really wanna do this.

                t
                agreed but that doesnt look particularly clean though, ....while the block is at the shop it seemed odd not to. its an SETA bottom end with CR 8.5:1 nominally its not going to matter if it increases a bit
                89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

                new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by digger View Post
                  agreed but that doesnt look particularly clean though, ....while the block is at the shop it seemed odd not to. its an SETA bottom end with CR 8.5:1 nominally its not going to matter if it increases a bit
                  Hmmm, well I guess I can try hitting it with some red scotch brite or sandpaper. I can't catch any of that off Color stuff with my nail though so I figured it would be ok. The block was hot tanked in a bearing safe tank because I'm re-using the intermediate shaft bearings.
                  1987 325es - Turbo Build - http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=379110
                  1988 320i Touring

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Steve o 77 View Post
                    Hmmm, well I guess I can try hitting it with some red scotch brite or sandpaper. I can't catch any of that off Color stuff with my nail though so I figured it would be ok. The block was hot tanked in a bearing safe tank because I'm re-using the intermediate shaft bearings.
                    no sandpaper or scoatchbrite basically anything where the grits/bits can come off is risky, gets some chemicals carby cleaner, oven cleaner (none on aluminium tho), brake cleaner etc avoid geeting into bores and behind rings /into sump oil etc (have piston down bores and stuff rags in there a section at a time). if nothing comes off with elbow grease it'll be ok
                    Last edited by digger; 01-31-2016, 11:19 PM.
                    89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

                    new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by digger View Post
                      no sandpaper or scoatchbrite basically anything where the grits/bits can come off is risky, gets some chemicals carby cleaner, oven cleaner (none on aluminium tho), brake cleaner etc avoid geeting into bores and behind rings /into sump oil etc (have piston down bores and stuff rags in there a section at a time). if nothing comes off with elbow grease it'll be ok
                      Oh I've definitely scrubbed with carb cleaner and it didn't touch it, nothing came off.

                      I'm just going to leave it and hope for the best. I know the o rings will hold at least.
                      1987 325es - Turbo Build - http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=379110
                      1988 320i Touring

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                        #26
                        Well I finally go back from my business trip today and came home to a big box!



                        Welded jackets


                        So I got to work cleaning the faces of the block and head, sprayed the gasket with some copper spray and torqued it down to 70ftlbs in 3 even steps per the arp instructions.







                        Then I started putting the little things on







                        Ended up here at the end of the day



                        I still need to torque that crank bolt the remaining 70ftlbs and get started on oil and water lines for the turbo. It's getting close though!

                        Oh I also got a new mishimoti e36 radiator and a kamotors mspnp to give me a good starting point on the tune.
                        1987 325es - Turbo Build - http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=379110
                        1988 320i Touring

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                          #27
                          Got the crank bolt torqued down today, I thought my harbor freight engine stand was going to fold in half. I ended up jamming a piece of 2x4 wrapped in a clean rag between the block and a counter weight. I used some aluminum plate to disperse the load so as not to split the wood. It worked great!



                          Gouged it up pretty good



                          My torque wrench maxes at 250ftlb so I resorted to the body weight times distance method and used my cheater bar.



                          And some more cooling system stuff on.



                          Ended up here at the end of the day. The distributor cap is temporary until I can find a plate to replace it.




                          I also checked the valve clearance just for the heck of it and they were ridiculously tight after torquing the head down. Bimmerheads ships their heads at .01" clearance and they were at about .004 after torquing. Is that normal? I reset them to .01" and called it good.
                          Last edited by Steve o 77; 02-07-2016, 09:49 PM. Reason: Typo
                          1987 325es - Turbo Build - http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=379110
                          1988 320i Touring

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                            #28
                            If you mean that the .010" clearance went to .004" when you installed the head, then yes, that's normal.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by redlightpete View Post
                              If you mean that the .010" clearance went to .004" when you installed the head, then yes, that's normal.
                              That's correct, ok cool.
                              1987 325es - Turbo Build - http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=379110
                              1988 320i Touring

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                                #30
                                teh TIG art on that v-band..
                                1986 LTW M52 (First project 2015- )
                                1998 e36 328ic/5 -
                                Roundie alpina pig cheek’d (1969)
                                1967 2002 parts car
                                1994 318iS junked.

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