Interest in Bolt on Turbo kit?

[jrockbk]

Ayo, imma need 450whp fer $1k. you got me jake?
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Sociopaths resort to sarcasm

I did state I was a noob and was just asking the question. I think this kit is awesome and wish I had seen this thread before I bought a second e30 s50 swapped car (that I'm not even driving yet ) I would have totally gone this route first. I was asking about the AFM because mine is going bad in my 318is.

[eur04lif3]

With all due respect, I do not think the Vlad comment is appropriate. Jake is not mis-representing anything. His kit came to me exactly as advertised and the service was more than I expected. From our conversations, he does not have a turbo M42 and in reviewing his documentation of the mock-up it was completed on a donor car.

If there is a serious demand for dyno results maybe we could split the cost between 10 of us. I would be willing to bring my car to a shop. Personally, I am not interested in the results so I wont be doing this on my own. I do need to put a new clutch in first and the salt is down so it would have to be in the spring.

I would be interested, depending on the $. What would a dyno cost?

Agreed referencing Jake to such a scumbag like vlad is extremely insulting.......there isn't really a need for a dyno imho every ones car is different and your results will vary......asking for dyno numbers etc is comparable to window shopping......you aren't going to buy.....your just curious as to the possible potential of what your m42 is capable of......just my

lol what?

I think it's fair and reasonable request to know what one is getting for their $1700, are you getting extra 20hp, 30hp...40hp?
Common, lets be real here. No one questions the quality of products that Jake provides, nor his service...but for the piece of mind one wants to know what this money will get him, and currently there isn't a number.
Also, the fact that everyone car is different is invalid excuse as well. The number is not to be treated as absolute gain, its an approximation.

I mean would you pay $1,700 for a computer that i told you it was build right and preformed well....yet, not sharing RAM, storage #'s, dedicated memory and video information(ie. performance)? You wouldn't.

[bradnic]

I think it's fair and reasonable request to know what one is getting for their $1700, are you getting extra 20hp, 30hp...40hp?

sorry but it also sounds to me like you're window shopping. turbocharging an M42 is a probably the most effective and inexpensive way to increase performance period. you can keep the motor stock as long as you're careful about max boost. Is it a lot faster? HELL YES. And you don't need to be DJ Buttchug either to get decent performance.

for a kit like this dyno numbers are window dressing. you have reference customers. if they're for real and felt ripped off they would say something. do you honestly think he's getting rich off this kit?

my guess: until a buyer coughs up the cash for before/after dyno work you won't be seeing numbers here. Shouldn't stop you from buying a proven kit.

[bmwm42]

sorry but it also sounds to me like you're window shopping. turbocharging an M42 is a probably the most effective and inexpensive way to increase performance period. you can keep the motor stock as long as you're careful about max boost. Is it a lot faster? HELL YES. And you don't need to be DJ Buttchug either to get decent performance.

for a kit like this dyno numbers are window dressing. you have reference customers. if they're for real and felt ripped off they would say something. do you honestly think he's getting rich off this kit?

my guess: until a buyer coughs up the cash for before/after dyno work you won't be seeing numbers here. Shouldn't stop you from buying a proven kit.

Absolute window shopper......the car is running 9lbs of boost it anit a rocket ship........but you going to be alot faster than stock and there anit shit too can do to make an na m42 faster on the cheap.......figure 200-225 hp or if your really interested fork over the money for the dyno yourself he has posted vids actual customer testimonials about what your getting

[jakeb]

I'm very interested and have a question about using the AFM with your kit. I know yours is made to be an easy diy kit but I'm interested in the cleanest and install without using the old AFM technology. How much more $$ and hassle would it be to do a standalone ecu that also can allow for boost settings or running e85 possibly? I'm sort of a noob to tubo setups so forgive me if this doesn't make sense

Yes a standalone is doable but that is a completly different setup than what this kit is meant to be. It's a low boost, bolt on it.

The cost depends on what standalone you want.... Would you want it pre tuned?

As to how an m42 2002 is...it's great. The m42 keeps the 02 light and tossable but you get efi and great econ. Mine will be getting a turbo eventually.

I know of a complete 2002 and m42 setup for sale if you are interested.

[wazzu70]

A dyno pull(s) is around $150 here, $70 if you get in on a group dyno day. Just to give an idea on cost.

If you are interested in a standalone IMO be prepared to want to know how to tune it and learn it in and out. Its fairly time consuming and can be aggrivating at times. It is also fun and rewarding learning everything....but you have to want to learn and put in the effort. Just getting a "plug and play" unit and thinking thats going to work fantastic out of the box will leave you disappointed.

If I was hooking up a standalone for someone I would say as a rough ballpark price to set aside $1500 for the unit, sensors, wiring, time, ect.

[wazzu70]

As to how an m42 2002 is...it's great. The m42 keeps the 02 light and tossable but you get efi and great econ. Mine will be getting a turbo eventually.

I remember like 10 years ago when everyone said fitting an M42 in a 2002 was impossible. Im just sad I didnt keep my car and find out for myself because I could have done it and would have loved it.

[jakeb]

I remember like 10 years ago when everyone said fitting an M42 in a 2002 was impossible. Im just sad I didnt keep my car and find out for myself because I could have done it and would have loved it.

Yeah when I did mine everyone said it was a waste of time and impossible. I've helped and sold probably 30+ sets of mounts sense then. The issue was the one that had been done before was with an E36 m42/m44 and the oilpan and intake setup make it soooo much more difficult. With a E30 m42 it's a lot easier.

[Goat]

Dyno numbers

Power is in the 200whp range. Maybe a bit more....
Hoping to dyno my buddies e21 eventually so get some numbers. His car is damn quick...and still getting 28mpg on that last tank. A lot of cruising in there but some hard driving as well. I may have mentioned before but my buddy with the e21 also has an sti and says the turbo m42 feels similar to the sti. power to weight...

I do have at least one person that wants a kit so it looks like it will go into development. If more people get in at the same time I might be able to bring the price a bit lower.

I don't know Vlad personally but I have to agree with him that it would help to see some dyno results by now. Not a deal breaker, but would definitely motivate more buys. It's also not cool how you guys attacked him for stating the obvious. Window shoppers are shoppers too.

[wazzu70]

Yeah when I did mine everyone said it was a waste of time and impossible. I've helped and sold probably 30+ sets of mounts sense then. The issue was the one that had been done before was with an E36 m42/m44 and the oilpan and intake setup make it soooo much more difficult. With a E30 m42 it's a lot easier.

Yeah, I commented....why not use the E30 intake and pan. Everyone said it wouldn't help. I knew it would, I just didn't have the financial resources to put it together. I'm glad you proved people wrong though :)

[wazzu70]

I don't know Vlad personally but I have to agree with him that it would help to see some dyno results by now. Not a deal breaker, but would definitely motivate more buys. It's also not cool how you guys attacked him for stating the obvious. Window shoppers are shoppers too.

Its not that he asked for dyno numbers....its that he called Jake a Vlad. Thats about as low as you can go. Hes calling Jake an unethical scammer which is not even close to the truth.

People who pay for a kit get the kit and it works just fine for them. No scam, no poor workmanship, no refusing to refund, ect.

[chodedub]

A dyno pull(s) is around $150 here, $70 if you get in on a group dyno day. Just to give an idea on cost.

If you are interested in a standalone IMO be prepared to want to know how to tune it and learn it in and out. Its fairly time consuming and can be aggrivating at times. It is also fun and rewarding learning everything....but you have to want to learn and put in the effort. Just getting a "plug and play" unit and thinking thats going to work fantastic out of the box will leave you disappointed.

If I was hooking up a standalone for someone I would say as a rough ballpark price to set aside $1500 for the unit, sensors, wiring, time, ect.

Wow we get dyno pulls at $40 a pop here or $60 an hour with tuning help

[TheTacoMan]

If you could mock an m20 kit and figure how to keep power steering and AC I would REALLY be interested

Not trying to take away from this thread, but kamotors is offering a turbo kit for the m20.

[wazzu70]

Wow we get dyno pulls at $40 a pop here or $60 an hour with tuning help

Yeah, prices vary all over. This is Seattle area pricing so its probably more expensive than less populated areas :)

[jrockbk]

Yes a standalone is doable but that is a completly different setup than what this kit is meant to be. It's a low boost, bolt on it.

The cost depends on what standalone you want.... Would you want it pre tuned?

i would want a basic pretuned ecu setup for pump gas and AFM delete since they are prone to go bad, can use cheap Ford MAF.