e30 m42 with e36 m3 mounts & idle vibration

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  • dullrot
    Member
    • Nov 2013
    • 51

    #1

    e30 m42 with e36 m3 mounts & idle vibration

    I'd read that e36 m3 mounts could be used to replace the stock e30 m42 mounts, provided the locating tabs on the motor mounts were shaved off.

    I did this, along with e21 transmission mounts, and while many things are worlds better than they were with 200k mile torn oem trans mounts and one leaking pass side engine mount, I'm noticing vibration in the cabin when stopped.

    Since the new mounts definitely have the motor sitting higher than it was before, I'd be suspecting driveshaft alignment, but this happens at idle (a steady 5-600rpm in neutral), so the driveshaft would not be spinning.

    Was the e36 m3 motor mount idea bunk info? If I should ditch them I'd likely look at the e28 535i mounts, the oem m42's are too damn expensive.

    91 318is build thread
  • Dj Buttchug
    R3V OG
    • Jun 2010
    • 7633

    #2
    theres a reason m42 mounts are expensive. this is that reason.

    Turbo M42 Build Thread :Here
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    Originally posted by lambo
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    • dullrot
      Member
      • Nov 2013
      • 51

      #3
      because they are fluid filled? The e36 m3 ones are fluid filled as well. Same style mount, just slightly less space between the locating tab and the stud. Seem a little taller, but that may be due to 23 years and 200k.

      91 318is build thread

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      • dullrot
        Member
        • Nov 2013
        • 51

        #4
        for whatever reason, the vibration was gone today. Completely gone. I'd recently gotten gas, and also tightened up the banjo bolts on the PS pump. Did rack swap at the same time as the motor mounts.

        I suppose the pump could have been vibrating due to air being drawn in through the pump? I'd been having loud whine with steering at full lock, despite several bleeding sessions and a few dozen miles driving. That's gone now as well. Whatever it was, yay.

        91 318is build thread

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        • AustinK425
          E30 Modder
          • Sep 2011
          • 831

          #5
          Get m42 mounts.

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          • roguetoaster
            R3V OG
            • Jan 2012
            • 7753

            #6
            I doubt the mounts contributed to that occurence of poor idle. Also, 5-600RPM is a bit low. Maybe you should get it back up to spec?

            The more I think about it the more I dislike the idea of putting in engine mounts with no locator tab. Somehow it seems like there could be issues with stressing the mount studs, although I have no evidence to back this up. Further, it would be a good idea to reinforce the subframe if you go to solid mounts.

            I would strongly urge you to go back to stock mounts as they will last for 5+ years with no real issue (unless all you do is track it) and are by far the best mount for the M42.

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            • dullrot
              Member
              • Nov 2013
              • 51

              #7
              As I said, the NVH/vibrations are gone - I think they were more related to the PS swap. The e36 m3 mounts are not solid, they are the same style as the stock m42 mounts. Rubber and hydraulic.

              I'll keep an eye on them, I put the car on the lift at least once a week.

              91 318is build thread

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              • roguetoaster
                R3V OG
                • Jan 2012
                • 7753

                #8
                Originally posted by dullrot
                As I said, the NVH/vibrations are gone - I think they were more related to the PS swap. The e36 m3 mounts are not solid, they are the same style as the stock m42 mounts. Rubber and hydraulic.

                I'll keep an eye on them, I put the car on the lift at least once a week.
                I understood all of that to be true when I replied. If you can do update this thread if you see the engine mounts shifting from starting position or signs of metal fatigue.

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                • mrmckie
                  Mod Crazy
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 728

                  #9
                  How are these mounts holding up?

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                  • fresh_TD
                    R3VLimited
                    • Aug 2013
                    • 2457

                    #10
                    $150 worth of motor mounts is expensive? Lol

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                    • varg
                      No R3VLimiter
                      • May 2014
                      • 3288

                      #11
                      I have the green E28 motor mounts, they've held up to my abuse so far and I haven't noticed too much vibration. Another good cheap alternative to OE. Stiffer than old worn out stock mounts too, so good for turbo cars.

                      IG @turbovarg
                      '91 318is, M20 turbo
                      [CoTM: 4-18]
                      '94 525iT slicktop, M50B30 + S362SX-E, 600WHP DD or bust
                      '93 RX-7 FD3S

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                      • ccsdo5
                        Mod Crazy
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 707

                        #12
                        I have some solid UHMW mounts I got off a member for like $70. You want to feel a rattle, my car seems like it is going to shake apart when idling. I've been thinking of getting better mounts since the ones I have sit my engine a little higher anyway.
                        -Dee
                        5-lugged turbo 318is Barn car
                        IG: @deebelmont

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                        • roguetoaster
                          R3V OG
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 7753

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ccsdo5
                          I have some solid UHMW mounts I got off a member for like $70. You want to feel a rattle, my car seems like it is going to shake apart when idling. I've been thinking of getting better mounts since the ones I have sit my engine a little higher anyway.
                          By better you of course mean stock M42. At last check they're available on rockauto for $17 each, and should still be in stock.

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                          • fresh_TD
                            R3VLimited
                            • Aug 2013
                            • 2457

                            #14
                            OE M42 mounts are $75 a piece. Totally worth it.

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                            '91 318i (Alpine) - daily
                            '88 325ix (Zinno) - drive here and there!

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                            • DER E30
                              R3VLimited
                              • Sep 2013
                              • 2343

                              #15
                              Raise your idle
                              -Christian

                              '02 ///M3 CarbonSchwartz 6MT daily beast
                              08/91 Mtechnic II 325IC alpine/lotus
                              318iS, slow build/garage queen...
                              '37 Chevy pickup, the über project
                              Originally posted by roguetoaster
                              Be sure to remind them that the M42 is one of the best engines ever made, but be sure to not mention where it actually falls on that list.

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