m30 afm + 19lb injectors =afpr needed???

[Mystikal]

With all the adjustments needed and shit, this mod is NOT WORTH IT AT ALL. think about it, you pay 60 for a dyno, say your battery dies or you disconnect it for something else, THERE GOES ALL YOUR TUNING YOUR ECU IS RESET

Hahahaha.

What the hell are you talking about? This isn't an OBDII flash upgrade, software is set (do you lose everything on your hard drive when you shut off your PC? Hahahaha). And to most of the guys here, "tuning" is apparently turning the wheel.

[rwh11385]

The one way I can control it. And avoid paying $$ for the shop to fiddle with it.

[gstuning]

With all the adjustments needed and shit, this mod is NOT WORTH IT AT ALL. think about it, you pay 60 for a dyno, say your battery dies or you disconnect it for something else, THERE GOES ALL YOUR TUNING YOUR ECU IS RESET

Hahahaha.

What the hell are you talking about? This isn't an OBDII flash upgrade, software is set (do you lose everything on your hard drive when you shut off your PC? Hahahaha). And to most of the guys here, "tuning" is apparently turning the wheel.

What he meanst is that everybody is using the O2 to regulate the mixture, and will take time to "Learn",, if you loose battery power the O2 map will have to begin again and until then your running the car incorrectly.

[RobertK]

Ok now damnit.. I just bought some 19lb injectors but not the MAF.. should I be ok using these injectors without putting my car on a dyno?

[nando]

What he meanst is that everybody is using the O2 to regulate the mixture, and will take time to "Learn",, if you loose battery power the O2 map will have to begin again and until then your running the car incorrectly.

well duh. but it only takes a couple miles for the ECU to map it all back out again and reduce the duty cycle, it's not the end of the world.

Ritalin Kid, they will be just fine. you are not going to destroy your motor if you don't tune the car for the injectors. using them on a stock car will just mean the ECU will reduce the duty cycle and end up flowing the same amount of fuel as before.

[Digitalwave]

With all the adjustments needed and shit, this mod is NOT WORTH IT AT ALL. think about it, you pay 60 for a dyno, say your battery dies or you disconnect it for something else, THERE GOES ALL YOUR TUNING YOUR ECU IS RESET

You are an idiot.

[NC325iC]

how do you adjust this peice

[zandi]

With all the adjustments needed and shit, this mod is NOT WORTH IT AT ALL. think about it, you pay 60 for a dyno, say your battery dies or you disconnect it for something else, THERE GOES ALL YOUR TUNING YOUR ECU IS RESET

You are an idiot.

Think a little before you press reply. Tuning requires a AFPR and a dyno, you have to use that so your ECU programs itself the right way. Now if you're not at a dyno, which 99.999% of the time you're not at one, and your battery dies or ECU gets reset, then the tunings you have done will be gone and your ECU will learn the wrong way.

[zandi]

With all the adjustments needed and shit, this mod is NOT WORTH IT AT ALL. think about it, you pay 60 for a dyno, say your battery dies or you disconnect it for something else, THERE GOES ALL YOUR TUNING YOUR ECU IS RESET

You are an idiot.

Think a little before you press reply. Tuning requires a AFPR and a dyno, you have to use that so your ECU programs itself the right way. Now if you're not at a dyno, which 99.999% of the time you're not at one, and your battery dies or ECU gets reset, then the tunings you have done will be gone and your ECU will learn the wrong way.

[PeaveyBassist]

With all the adjustments needed and shit, this mod is NOT WORTH IT AT ALL. think about it, you pay 60 for a dyno, say your battery dies or you disconnect it for something else, THERE GOES ALL YOUR TUNING YOUR ECU IS RESET

You are an idiot.

Think a little before you press reply. Tuning requires a AFPR and a dyno, you have to use that so your ECU programs itself the right way. Now if you're not at a dyno, which 99.999% of the time you're not at one, and your battery dies or ECU gets reset, then the tunings you have done will be gone and your ECU will learn the wrong way.

Think a little before you press reply...twice...

Will

[kowalski]

Think a little before you press reply...twice...

Will


also noone was talking about tunning the motronic... thats why you get stand alone or piggy back systems.... atleast thats what most of hte people on here are talking about right now, reducing or increasing fuel presure to optimum flow for the engine. so no you wont loose the information.

[Digitalwave]

With all the adjustments needed and shit, this mod is NOT WORTH IT AT ALL. think about it, you pay 60 for a dyno, say your battery dies or you disconnect it for something else, THERE GOES ALL YOUR TUNING YOUR ECU IS RESET

You are an idiot.

Think a little before you press reply. Tuning requires a AFPR and a dyno, you have to use that so your ECU programs itself the right way. Now if you're not at a dyno, which 99.999% of the time you're not at one, and your battery dies or ECU gets reset, then the tunings you have done will be gone and your ECU will learn the wrong way.

Tuning with an AFPR has nothing to do with your ECU. You have no idea what you are talking about. Our ECU's are barely, if any, adaptive. It's not like they can sense you put a bigger AFM and injectors and then pop out a new, optimized fuel map. Any adjustments that are made will be re-made after a bit after you restore power to the ECU.

[zandi]

With all the adjustments needed and shit, this mod is NOT WORTH IT AT ALL. think about it, you pay 60 for a dyno, say your battery dies or you disconnect it for something else, THERE GOES ALL YOUR TUNING YOUR ECU IS RESET

You are an idiot.

Think a little before you press reply. Tuning requires a AFPR and a dyno, you have to use that so your ECU programs itself the right way. Now if you're not at a dyno, which 99.999% of the time you're not at one, and your battery dies or ECU gets reset, then the tunings you have done will be gone and your ECU will learn the wrong way.

Tuning with an AFPR has nothing to do with your ECU. You have no idea what you are talking about. Our ECU's are barely, if any, adaptive. It's not like they can sense you put a bigger AFM and injectors and then pop out a new, optimized fuel map. Any adjustments that are made will be re-made after a bit after you restore power to the ECU.

So is the AFPR replacing a stock FPR?

[rwh11385]

Tuning with an AFPR has nothing to do with your ECU. You have no idea what you are talking about. Our ECU's are barely, if any, adaptive. It's not like they can sense you put a bigger AFM and injectors and then pop out a new, optimized fuel map. Any adjustments that are made will be re-made after a bit after you restore power to the ECU.

I'm still going with what Bryson said and what I saw more or less with my setup.

If you put in the injectors, the computer will change the duty cycles to be cool. And with the M30 AFM it will still be cool. If only the AFM wheel was right......

TJ, the airbox arrived today. I should hopefully have time to play with it, the new M30 AFM, and other junk. And then spin the wheel while on the dyno the next time, and see how good of a A/F curve one can get with only that being done. No AFPR.

[NC325iC]

anyone wanna tell me if this can really be adjusted or not (the afm)