Remove subframe the subframe for oil pan gasket?

[RefinedThinking]

Any one have any thoughts on this vs hoisting the engine and whatever else? I don't have an effective way to really hoist the engine and at first thought removing the subframe would be the way to go, any experience on this?

[FunfGan]

You realize the engine is bolted to the subframe, correct?

Edit: I am assuming you have a 24v.

[Dj Buttchug]

what engine....?

[Massimo]

If you have M42 it can be done without removing engine.

[RefinedThinking]

M20, sorry.

[Kershaw]

its a pain, but you dont need to do anything. just unbolt the pan. that's how i did it. slide it out from on top of the subframe.

a bit of finagling.

[RefinedThinking]

its a pain, but you dont need to do anything. just unbolt the pan. that's how i did it. slide it out from on top of the subframe.

a bit of finagling.

good to know, thank you.

[iwantspeed]

you can also loosen the motor mounts
jack up the engine by the ac bracket
remove the oil pan bolts
remove the 2 bolts for the oil pump pick up and the pan will slide out.

[Kershaw]

that's a pretty good idea. i bet it makes it a lot easier to remove.

[slammin.e28]

[gtdragon980]

I agree with iwantspeed, just lift the engine up a tad and go to town on the oil pan bolts. It's not tooo hard, just getting around the oil pump is a hassle with the gasket on. Make sure to use some gasket adhesive so the gasket does not move around when you are trying to put it back on. Otherwise, its a fairly simple job.

[Oly_Schmidt]

Just did two of these. The pan comes out by just loosening the the right motor mount and lifting the engine an inch or two. I didn't see a way to get it out without removing the oil pump while it's still in the (unbolted) pan. It's a pain but can be done.

As said earlier, allow the new gasket fully set up, cuz you will be banging on it to get the pan back in.

[nebulous123]

you can also loosen the motor mounts
jack up the engine by the ac bracket
remove the oil pan bolts
remove the 2 bolts for the oil pump pick up and the pan will slide out.

^this...but I took off the bell-housing cover undid as many bolts as I could on the pan. took off the motor mount bolts and jacked up the motor from the bell-housing took off the bolts for the oil pump pickup and it slid out.

with the jack over by the bell-housing it makes it easier to move around and get the pan out. imo

[bernzpeed]

its a pain, but you dont need to do anything. just unbolt the pan. that's how i did it. slide it out from on top of the subframe.

a bit of finagling.

what? the oil pump is in the way, you can't just slide it out.
i had to unbolt motor mounts, raise the engine, unbolted the pan and unbolted the oil pump as well to both slide it out.

bell housing is pita

[Red88]

I've taken one off with finagling but I had to raise the engine to put the pan back on with the new gasket