Cheap Sub-Frame Fix?

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  • Digitalwave
    is a poseur
    • Oct 2003
    • 6281

    #46
    Originally posted by MarkH
    So how much stiffer are the street urethane bushings compared to the stock ones? I need to replace my rear subframe bushings and was just going to go with the stock ones as I do not want to make the ride too harsh or introduce too much road noise.
    They are stiffer but you are not going to notice anything negative. They are also a lot easier to install.

    RISING EDGE

    Let's drive fast and have fun.

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    • DaN
      E30 Fanatic
      • Dec 2003
      • 1265

      #47
      I'm curious how these will work in new bushings.
      I was also thinking about filling up new ones with epoxy or something, before installing them. Did someone say they used delrin? How does that process work?

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      • MarkH
        Member
        • Jun 2005
        • 65

        #48
        So which urethane street bushing do people recommend? Both IE and BavAuto have models for street use.

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        • Digitalwave
          is a poseur
          • Oct 2003
          • 6281

          #49
          Originally posted by DaN
          I'm curious how these will work in new bushings.
          I was also thinking about filling up new ones with epoxy or something, before installing them. Did someone say they used delrin? How does that process work?
          If you are replacing your bushings why the hell would you do new OEM ones and then try to strengthen them when you could just buy urethane or delrin? I can see this strengthening crap if you want to leave your old bushings in, but not if you are replacing them....

          Mark, I have the RTRS bushings that BavAuto sells and they are great.

          RISING EDGE

          Let's drive fast and have fun.

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          • DaN
            E30 Fanatic
            • Dec 2003
            • 1265

            #50
            I would like them to be slightly more rigid than stock. Getting rid of the empty area in the bushing seems like it would greatly reduce deflection, without creating much harshness. Plus I already have subframe bushings that were free.

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            • rs4pro3
              R3V Elite
              • Oct 2003
              • 5808

              #51
              The E28 guys commonly, take the stock bushings, and fill the voids with urethane, makes the bushing stiffer but keeps the stock ride quality for the most part.
              85 325e 2.7 ITB'd stroker

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              • RobertK
                Kicked cancer's ASS.
                • Jun 2005
                • 5864

                #52
                I explained the PVC "reinforcements" with my old high school buddy who works for the Grayson BMW $tealership as tech here in Knoxville and he didn't seem to see any problem with it especially when he compared it to the time they spend doing the OEM replacement job and how much they charge at the $tealership to do the job.

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                • Dave
                  E30 RAT
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 11675

                  #53
                  Originally posted by parkerbink
                  The ie bushings are 53.00 for the set seems false savings to me.
                  They are 80 for street, 98 for race. Where do you see them for $53? The TA bushings are $52 - maybe you got the two confused?
                  Current Cars
                  2014 M235i
                  2009 R56 Cooper S
                  1998 M3
                  1997 M3

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                  • parkerbink
                    R3V OG
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 10137

                    #54
                    My mistake I thought these were TA's sorry

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                    • Dave
                      E30 RAT
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 11675

                      #55
                      Originally posted by parkerbink
                      My mistake I thought these were TA's sorry
                      Its still only a $50-60 difference. Your point is still somewhat valid.
                      Current Cars
                      2014 M235i
                      2009 R56 Cooper S
                      1998 M3
                      1997 M3

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                      • DaN
                        E30 Fanatic
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 1265

                        #56
                        Originally posted by rs4pro3
                        The E28 guys commonly, take the stock bushings, and fill the voids with urethane, makes the bushing stiffer but keeps the stock ride quality for the most part.
                        How do you go about filling them with urethane?
                        Is there a two part mix that can pour in? not familiar with the properties of urethane.

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                        • rs4pro3
                          R3V Elite
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 5808

                          #57
                          Yep it's a mix they pore in, just tape off one end pour in the urethane and let it sit a while. Pop on and enjoy, a few have been able to do it with everything still on the car.
                          85 325e 2.7 ITB'd stroker

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                          • parkerbink
                            R3V OG
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 10137

                            #58
                            After re reading the ad seems you could just make these yourself. He makes them in his garage why couldn't anyone?

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                            • DaN
                              E30 Fanatic
                              • Dec 2003
                              • 1265

                              #59
                              Originally posted by parkerbink
                              After re reading the ad seems you could just make these yourself. He makes them in his garage why couldn't anyone?
                              Sure, buy short length of pvc pipe, cut with tin snips.

                              Originally posted by rs4pro3
                              Yep it's a mix they pore in, just tape off one end pour in the urethane and let it sit a while. Pop on and enjoy, a few have been able to do it with everything still on the car.
                              Where would I get the urethane mix?

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                              • nando
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2003
                                • 34827

                                #60
                                it's not about tracking your car at all, it's about cheap ass ghetto "fixes" you guys are talking about all the time. no wonder most E30s are total peices of shit..
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