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  • herbie
    Wrencher
    • Jan 2011
    • 206

    #1

    Power Steering Delete Question

    Hi Guys,

    My E30 came with an E46 M3 steering rack with the power steering deleted. However, the previous owner did not install a power steering delete kit, he also didn't install back the two banjo bolts so there are two holes on the rack. My question is, instead of buying two banjo bolts and the power steering delete kit from condor or garagistic, can I simply buy two M14 x 1.5 bolts and plug the holes? or maybe can I use two rubber stoppers to plug the holes? or can i just leave those to holes alone? I'd rather not spend on something not needed. thanks in advance.
  • efficient
    No R3VLimiter
    • Feb 2012
    • 3312

    #2
    the banjo bolts have 2 holes going thru them. from what i remember condor delete kit also has 2 holes. id assume its to make room for whatever air or lubrication is in the rack.

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    • herbie
      Wrencher
      • Jan 2011
      • 206

      #3
      Originally posted by efficient
      the banjo bolts have 2 holes going thru them. from what i remember condor delete kit also has 2 holes. id assume its to make room for whatever air or lubrication is in the rack.
      Would leaving the holes exposed be harmful?

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      • e30davie
        E30 Mastermind
        • Apr 2016
        • 1788

        #4
        Assume we are talking about this kit. Which seems to suggest that linking them together is a better option than blocking them completely.

        Tailored for track and street builds, this aluminum power steering delete kit enhances steering response, reduces weight, and upgrades engine bay simplicity.


        What I would do if i was inclined to remove the power steering, is get the banjo fittings off the old hoses, cut them up and just put a bit of rubber hose between the two fittings. if you have the old hoses this would be free, if you don't someone can probably give you some hoses or just buy the banjo fittings them selves from a hydraulics shop for pretty cheap.

        personally i would put power steering back in.....

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        • 325e '87
          E30 Addict
          • May 2017
          • 503

          #5
          You have to let the air move in and out of the two sides of the rack, if you plug those holes you may not be able to turn the wheel since air will get compressed or create vacuum depending on which way your turning the wheel.

          It’s not a good idea to leave the bolt holes open for a lengthy period of time because of contamination inside the rack. My son installed that condor kit that keeps the ability for air to move back and forth and keeping road grime out of the insides of the rack.
          My son has the 1987 325e, 2 door, 5speed
          I daily the 1989 325i, 4 door, 5speed

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          • herbie
            Wrencher
            • Jan 2011
            • 206

            #6
            thanks for the responses, I think I'll just get a pair of m14x1.5 with barb fitting ends and just connect the two ends with a hose and call it a day. that way, the air will still freely move and the system will still be sealed, safe from contaminants.

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            • vpilarrt
              R3VLimited
              • Jun 2006
              • 2096

              #7
              The 2 banjo bolts are different sizes, M14 and M16.

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              • herbie
                Wrencher
                • Jan 2011
                • 206

                #8
                Originally posted by vpilarrt
                The 2 banjo bolts are different sizes, M14 and M16.
                Wow, this is critical info. Thanks for letting me know.

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                • Jaxx_
                  E30 Mastermind
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 1880

                  #9
                  I left the banjo bolts and simply covered the holes with some holes. You don't need to loop the rack or fill it with fluid, it is internally lubricated.
                  '84 318i M10B18 147- Safari Beige
                  NA: 93whp/90ftlbs, MS2E w/ LC, 2-Step
                  Turbo: 221whp/214ftlbs, MS3x flex @ 17psi

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                  • dnguyen1963
                    R3VLimited
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 2648

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Jaxx_
                    I left the banjo bolts and simply covered the holes with some holes. You don't need to loop the rack or fill it with fluid, it is internally lubricated.
                    How?

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                    • uturn
                      E30 Modder
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 982

                      #11
                      Originally posted by dnguyen1963
                      How?
                      It's so easy.... you take an inner hole and you place an outer hole on top of it. The two holes cancel each other out!

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                      • dnguyen1963
                        R3VLimited
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 2648

                        #12
                        Originally posted by uturn
                        It's so easy.... you take an inner hole and you place an outer hole on top of it. The two holes cancel each other out!
                        They are not equal holes...how can they cancel out, i.e. 1 - 1 = 0?
                        Last edited by dnguyen1963; 10-04-2018, 04:38 PM.

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                        • bmwman91
                          No R3VLimiter
                          • Oct 2004
                          • 3127

                          #13
                          One is a bore hole and the other is a clearance hole. You need the clearance to fit the cancellation. It is a typical rookie mistake to forget the clearance. You should never have to get out a hammer when cancelling holes, they should fit right the first time.

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                          • herbie
                            Wrencher
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 206

                            #14
                            Thanks for all the responses. Here’s what I ended up doing. Using barb fittings and a hose, I connected the two holes. Came out less than 15 bucks total. Remember, I didn’t have the banjo bolts so this is still cheaper than buying both banjo bolts and the delete kit.





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                            • TobyB
                              R3V Elite
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 5152

                              #15
                              But what happens to the self- lubrication when the holes cancel themselves out?

                              Doesn't it get... messy?

                              t
                              now, sometimes I just mess with people. It's more entertaining that way. george graves

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