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  • wazzu70
    E30 Enthusiast
    • Jan 2005
    • 1143

    #16
    This is a good solution that has been around a long time in various forms. It keeps correct E30 geometry is cost effective. Also the non-M brakes are a bit lighter too :)
    -Nick

    M42 on VEMS

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    • Max399
      E30 Modder
      • Feb 2013
      • 991

      #17
      I'd say that its also a lot cheaper than getting all the M gear. ;)
      And its really hard to get it here where i live :)
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      • wazzu70
        E30 Enthusiast
        • Jan 2005
        • 1143

        #18
        Very true, and you can also run more wheel choices :)

        Can you ask why the spindle is split in two? I have always wondered why the spindle is not the full length of the bearing and the nut was not just on the end. Obviously the nut would need to extend to the threaded portion of the original spindle with a slightly smaller diameter than the original bearing surface to fit under the new bearing sleeve.
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        • e30m3s54turbo
          No R3VLimiter
          • Jun 2010
          • 3195

          #19
          What rotors and calipers is a direct fit?
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          • Max399
            E30 Modder
            • Feb 2013
            • 991

            #20
            Originally posted by wazzu70
            Very true, and you can also run more wheel choices :)

            Can you ask why the spindle is split in two? I have always wondered why the spindle is not the full length of the bearing and the nut was not just on the end. Obviously the nut would need to extend to the threaded portion of the original spindle with a slightly smaller diameter than the original bearing surface to fit under the new bearing sleeve.
            Thats because it is the best design in terms of tightening the bearing. Well easiest. And it will not damage the bearing while installing. If you would use a full length spindle, then when tightening the nut, it would rub into the bearing, where as in this design, it will rub in the second part of the nut, and will do no damage to the bearing.

            Originally posted by e30m3s54turbo
            What rotors and calipers is a direct fit?
            You can use any non-M rotors and calipers. Ie any E36 or E46 brakes are a direct fit.
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            • kronus
              R3V OG
              • Apr 2008
              • 13003

              #21
              I'm interested in a set.
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              • iansane
                E30 Fanatic
                • Oct 2011
                • 1341

                #22
                Possible to get without the caliper adapter bracket?
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                • Max399
                  E30 Modder
                  • Feb 2013
                  • 991

                  #23
                  Originally posted by kronus
                  I'm interested in a set.
                  PM'ed

                  Originally posted by iansane
                  Possible to get without the caliper adapter bracket?
                  Will ask :)
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                  • 330SMG
                    Advanced Member
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 172

                    #24
                    Finally a non Frankenstein solution. Where do I get it?

                    One question , What keeps the nut from coming loose? Is the drivers side left hand thread?
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                    • Max399
                      E30 Modder
                      • Feb 2013
                      • 991

                      #25
                      Originally posted by 330SMG
                      Finally a non Frankenstein solution. Where do I get it?

                      One question , What keeps the nut from coming loose? Is the drivers side left hand thread?
                      PM'ed.

                      Actually i think the double-nut design should to the trick, ie you i think it will hold itself, but i will ask on that. About the right-hind - do not know, but it surely fits without any modifications.
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                      • ForcedFirebird
                        R3V OG
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 8300

                        #26
                        Originally posted by yahh
                        Anything for the rear?
                        As mentioned, you can do the 318ti/z3 trailing arms, but you can also use e30m3 bearings and hubs.
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                        • AndrewBird
                          The Mad Scientist
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 11892

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Max399
                          Thats because it is the best design in terms of tightening the bearing. Well easiest. And it will not damage the bearing while installing. If you would use a full length spindle, then when tightening the nut, it would rub into the bearing, where as in this design, it will rub in the second part of the nut, and will do no damage to the bearing.
                          I still don't understand the point of the bolt and washer that is threaded in after the adapter. Doesn't seem like it actually does anything.

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                          • Max399
                            E30 Modder
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 991

                            #28
                            Got them on my hands now, so regarding the whats holding it - you can bend the washer just like you would with a normal bearing install.
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                            • AlexKing
                              Member
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 62

                              #29
                              How about you send me a set and i will test them to assure the wider R3V community that they can stand up to abuse?

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                              • kronus
                                R3V OG
                                • Apr 2008
                                • 13003

                                #30
                                Originally posted by NitroRustlerDriver
                                I still don't understand the point of the bolt and washer that is threaded in after the adapter. Doesn't seem like it actually does anything.

                                I think this is how it's meant to work: the inner half of the race slides on. The outer half threads onto the stub axle somewhat tightly, but doesn't get cranked down, then the bolt is threaded into it. The bolt presses up on the stub axle and locks the outer half of the race.

                                If there wasn't such a bolt, I'm not sure how you'd lock the outer half of the race in place.

                                Definitely a bit weird.

                                Does the dust cap fit over the bolt arrangement?
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