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  • PAKMANe90post
    Member
    • May 2009
    • 81

    #16
    Originally posted by reelizmpro
    The inactive coils on the rear are in the middle. They are supposed to bind like that. I don't recall all 4 middle coils binding under the weight of the car but the end coils are the ones doing the "work". Running stock spring pads? I run Bilsteins with mine and they are great. Everyone jumped on the Koni bandwagon when GC started recommending them but I have them on my convertible with some very low springs and it feels like they are bottoming out.
    oh i just got konis because they were the only ones my source could get. never knew there was a band wagon :o:D when you say stock spring pads what do you m ean?

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    • reelizmpro
      R3V OG
      • Dec 2003
      • 9438

      #17
      Originally posted by PAKMANe90post
      oh i just got konis because they were the only ones my source could get. never knew there was a band wagon :o:D when you say stock spring pads what do you m ean?
      Oh I'm not saying Koni's are bad, don't get me wrong. The rear spring pads are rubber pads that go on top and bottom of the springs. They vary in thickness, but are typically about a 1/2 inch each x 2 = 1" difference in overall height right there.

      After looking at that rear picture. I bet they took out all of the spring pads...front and rear. Who did the install?
      "I'd probably take the E30 M3 in this case just because I love that little car, and how tanky that inline 6 is." - thecj

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      • 416stroker
        R3VLimited
        • May 2008
        • 2448

        #18
        Ya that deosnt look right. Are they both the same? What's the ride like? Even is the shocks are on the softest setting they shouldn't be that compessed. Mine are verry close but they don't all touch like that.
        84 318I Delphin RIP
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        • PAKMANe90post
          Member
          • May 2009
          • 81

          #19
          Originally posted by reelizmpro
          Oh I'm not saying Koni's are bad, don't get me wrong. The rear spring pads are rubber pads that go on top and bottom of the springs. They vary in thickness, but are typically about a 1/2 inch each x 2 = 1" difference in overall height right there.

          After looking at that rear picture. I bet they took out all of the spring pads...front and rear. Who did the install?
          this suspension shop that is known for many years to do great work lol.
          so how many spring pads do i need for the rears? the front seem fine just the rears. do i need 4?

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          • PAKMANe90post
            Member
            • May 2009
            • 81

            #20
            Originally posted by 416stroker
            Ya that deosnt look right. Are they both the same? What's the ride like? Even is the shocks are on the softest setting they shouldn't be that compessed. Mine are verry close but they don't all touch like that.
            i didnt really push the car to the limit yet i dont feel safe. hmmm

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            • BTP325ic
              Banned
              • Apr 2009
              • 700

              #21
              push it mang.

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              • reelizmpro
                R3V OG
                • Dec 2003
                • 9438

                #22
                Tomorrow jack up the car and check. There should be rubber pads on top and bottom in the front and rear. People often remove them to get more of a drop though which is probably what's going on here. Go ahead and run it though, it's not unsafe or anything.
                "I'd probably take the E30 M3 in this case just because I love that little car, and how tanky that inline 6 is." - thecj

                85 323i M TECH 1 S52 - ALPINEWEISS/SCHWARZE
                88 M3 - LACHSSILBER/SCHWARZE
                89 M3 - ALPINEWEISS II/M TECH CLOTH-ALCANTARA
                91 M TECHNIC CABRIO TURBO - MACAOBLAU/M TECH CLOTH-LEATHER

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                • BTP325ic
                  Banned
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 700

                  #23
                  yeah dude you need to push it to see how it handles and what not.

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                  • yert315
                    R3VLimited
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 2734

                    #24
                    Originally posted by BTP325ic
                    yeah dude you need to push it to see how it handles and what not.
                    gtfo, you don't know what you're talking about. He could seriously screw something up if he "pushed it" with a faulty rear suspension.

                    OP-
                    The rear springs are easy to get to yourself. I would take one out (jack the rear up, step on the control arm a bit and pull the spring out). Try compressing it with your own strength. If it compresses somewhat easily, it could be that the springs are faulty (although I have not seen too many cases with this problem). Another thing to test while you're under there is the shock. Be sure it is mounted and also make sure the spring pads are still intact.

                    Really nothing any of us can do from here. You're either going to have to test it out yourself, or take it back to the shop who installed them and ask them what is going on.

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                    • SkinnyVT
                      Grease Monkey
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 391

                      #25
                      the damping of the shock has ZERO effect on how low the car sits so people need to stop thinking that the shocks are adjusted incorrectly. However, if you are using shortened shocks that were shortened too much for the spring you are using then you will have an issue of coilbind like you are showing.

                      Other than that the issue could be caused by some ridiculous speaker box in the trunk (200lbs) or by having the incorrect springs on the car. No spring should be designed to have 4 coils touching each other.
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                      • paulkeith
                        Advanced Member
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 146

                        #26
                        doesn't look right, looks like you got the wrong spring rate or a junk spring. are both sides the same?
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                        • Teaguer
                          R3V OG
                          • Sep 2004
                          • 6167

                          #27
                          I believe there is more clearnce then what that crappy pic shows.
                          Sure its normal for some coils to bind but leaving out the spring [ads will do nothing for the coil or its binding.
                          The spring pads will only help determine the ride height.

                          And most people know enough that on a late model you want to leave the rear pads in as to get a better stance and lose the dragging ass syndrome.

                          E30 M3 / E30 325is / E34 525iT / E34 535i

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                          • moatilliatta
                            R3V OG
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 6119

                            #28
                            also, the dampeners are not going to set ride high either.

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                            • joonsup
                              Mod Crazy
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 776

                              #29
                              yeah when I saw his car yesterday something didn't look right. I knew H&R race was pretty low compared to H&R Sport, but for the springs to be compressed that much I dunno. Hopefully he gets that fixed today. As far as the ride goes, it felt pretty good...stiff, but it didn't feel like it was bottoming out. Then again I only drove it around the neighborhood for a few minutes so I couldn't really test out the ride quality.

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                              • nando
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2003
                                • 34827

                                #30
                                Originally posted by E30_fiend
                                it looks to me that you have the konis set to full soft. Thats the only thing i can think of that would do that. It almost looks like you arent running shocks at all.
                                ????? any comprehension of suspension at all? changing the settings of konis has absolutely nothing to do with ride height!

                                rear springs have dead coils. they don't do anything to support the car, so they touch. it's completely normal.

                                I feel sorry for the OP, asking a pretty simple tech question and getting completely wrong answers from all the noobs. If you don't have a clue don't open your mouth..
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