eh, I hate everything BMW after the e46. And I disagre—a zhp vert is a great driver’s car with exceptional road handling. Ive had a number of newer BMWs and they just dont do it for me. Ive moved to want classic BMWs as summer cruisers, and a modern SUV for daily commuting
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Originally posted by sna77 View Posteh, I hate everything BMW after the e46. And I disagre—a zhp vert is a great driver’s car with exceptional road handling. Ive had a number of newer BMWs and they just dont do it for me. Ive moved to want classic BMWs as summer cruisers, and a modern SUV for daily commuting
A zhp is just what, a steering rack, control arms and a set of hot cams away from its counterparts? No lsd (womp womp) and a soft top-- That's a no from me, dog.
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the e60/e90 were some of the ugliest bms Ive ever seen.. and the new ones with the giant grills suck too. I dont hate all new cars, just the new bmws. and again, I owned a bunch, and they bore me, and have so little road feel. They traded handling for pure speed, and great engines for turbo nonsense. Ehh, I’ll pass..
fwiw I owned 4 e46s, 2 of which were zhps. The zhps, are undoubtedly better looking, and the pinnacle of e46 design… and they were both better cars than my early 328/330… Plus, my zhp has an LSD installed which obviously opens things up a bit.
1992 318i cabrio Alpinweiss 2
2006 ZHP cabrio Imola
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If I were to own a BMW convertible, it would be a Z3M. But that's only BMWs, R129 SL600, especially AMG, is probably the only convertible I'd actually buy if the chance came up.
Originally posted by ZeKahr View PostThe new BMWs are way too porky as well. I’ve seen the 2 Series and it looks like a pig in size compared to the E30. That car, even for its “dimunitive” size, still needs a back up camera to parallel park in NYC
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Originally posted by sna77 View Postthe e60/e90 were some of the ugliest bms Ive ever seen.. and the new ones with the giant grills suck too.
But seriously, it sounds like you should make a mod list for your signature with current and past rides, maybe even your cca# (if its low enough)
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Originally posted by sna77 View Posteh, I hate everything BMW after the e46. And I disagre—a zhp vert is a great driver’s car with exceptional road handling. Ive had a number of newer BMWs and they just dont do it for me. Ive moved to want classic BMWs as summer cruisers, and a modern SUV for daily commuting
of knowing how to drive properly. I’ve driven the new BMWs and they lack any sort of feeling (speed is relative…)
I also have to say it isn’t easy to find an E30
convertible. Trying to replace one I had 20 years ago is not easy. They either want an absorbent amount of money for the car, or it is a step above a junker (and still $8k).
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Originally posted by sna77 View Posteh, I hate everything BMW after the e46.
yeah i also pretty much fall off the boat after the e46. the exception for me would be the e82. as far as i know we never got anything but the coupe and vert in canada. the e82 seems the closest modern spiritual successor to the e30. i have no idea how they are to live with though. i'd probably be talked into a z car fairly easy too, but it's not my first choice.
i can count on one hand the number of e30's i've seen in the wild here over the past year. there's not many more e82s either, there are more z cars than both, and far too many are autos here. the most common bmws here are all suvs.
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I love my vert.. It's a manual, so that helps a lot in the "fun" department.
I think those of you who seem to be very against the vert experience haven't experienced the car they way it was intended.. I'll echo that not every car has to be a firm track setup. If you get into a vert and expect that, you're going to be disappointed. Honestly, I've had no desire to modify my vert in any way, out side of appearance. It's... almost perfect
When I was driving the vert a lot more, I would always grab the vert keys over the hardtop when I was walking out the door to go drive around the beach... I just drive that thing with the intent to cruise, versus when I go out in the hardtop, I'm wringing that thing out at every light.
Totally different experience, while still being 100% e30
That being said, an auto trans has no place in an e30 unless you're physically unable to drive stick.
Originally posted by gazellebeigem3 View Posta slushbox pairs perfectly with a floppy vert chassis, no need for heel toeing on the way to the ice cream shop.
Disagree with you on that...
Originally posted by ZeKahr View PostHaven’t driven one. Never liked the profile of a vert compared to a sedan or a coupe, so I more or less ignored their existence. Also don’t like having wind blasted in my face while driving
Top down, windows up. If you're going under 70, you wont feel a thingLast edited by MrBurgundy; 06-22-2023, 09:21 AM.
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