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  • Liam
    Mod Crazy
    • Mar 2009
    • 753

    #91
    Originally posted by CorvallisBMW
    such as?
    Cam, OS valves, porting, headers, lucas injectors (not more lbs but better pattern, like the RCs) some other stuff.

    I did compare OE 173 software to the custom software to Millers' before I hauled off and installed it.
    I'm Not Right in the Head | Random Rants and other Nonsense1st Order Logic Failure: Association fallacy, this type of fallacy can be expressed as (∃xS : φ(x)) → (∀xS : φ(x)), meaning "if there exists any x in the set S so that a property φ is true for x, then for all x in S the property φ must be true".

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    • z31maniac
      I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
      • Dec 2007
      • 17566

      #92
      Originally posted by CorvallisBMW
      such as?
      Lightweight fabric on the seats, etc.
      Need parts now? Need them cheap? steve@blunttech.com
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      • nando
        Moderator
        • Nov 2003
        • 34827

        #93
        Originally posted by Liam
        So it took about 30 minutes to install (probably an hour and a half without a full shop and many years experience doing this kind of thing).



        The AFM this replaced was about 6 months and 1000 miles old. Everything on this engine is pretty much 100% fresh.

        Right off the bat, definite improvement. Smoother idle and no bounce when the throttle gets "tapped" in overall drive-ability there is a very noticeable improvement in throttle response and the subjective ass dyno tells me that it's gained some torque and a wider power band.
        post dyno sheets or it's all BS.

        Motronic 1.3 still has nothing for AE, your throttle response will never match anything with a modern ECU.
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        • Naplm00
          E30 Mastermind
          • Nov 2008
          • 1573

          #94
          Originally posted by nando
          post dyno sheets or it's all BS.

          Motronic 1.3 still has nothing for AE, your throttle response will never match anything with a modern ECU.


          I agreee with this, BUT...it may be worth it to some peeeps..like me

          just to ditch the AFM, ive been through 3 used ones and im starting to hate them


          I dont really care about the increased HP, just that the old AFM is going and ive got a more relaible MAF
          88 325ic ~~~> Rusty and ugly
          85 E ~~~> RIP

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          • Moto-Mucci
            R3VLimited
            • Oct 2008
            • 2058

            #95
            Originally posted by nando
            post dyno sheets or it's all BS.
            Yea man, hard to trust word of mouth without any numbers.

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            • Dillinger
              Wrencher
              • Mar 2009
              • 285

              #96
              Originally posted by nando
              post dyno sheets or it's all BS.

              Motronic 1.3 still has nothing for AE, your throttle response will never match anything with a modern ECU.
              Originally posted by Naplm00
              I agreee with this, BUT...it may be worth it to some peeeps..like me



              just to ditch the AFM, ive been through 3 used ones and im starting to hate them





              I dont really care about the increased HP, just that the old AFM is going and ive got a more relaible MAF



              Having come to the realization of who liam is I dont think he cares all that much. For the simple fact that this costs less than a reman afm this is good info anyway.

              I would like to see a dyno sheet myself though so if you get the chance please post them.

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              • nando
                Moderator
                • Nov 2003
                • 34827

                #97
                Originally posted by Dillinger
                Having come to the realization of who liam is I dont think he cares all that much.
                A pathological liar?

                I would like to see a dyno sheet myself though so if you get the chance please post them.
                it will never happen.
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                Bimmerlabs

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                • Dillinger
                  Wrencher
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 285

                  #98
                  Originally posted by nando
                  A pathological liar?



                  it will never happen.
                  That's a sad statement.

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                  • z31maniac
                    I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 17566

                    #99
                    Originally posted by Dillinger
                    Having come to the realization of who liam is I dont think he cares all that much. For the simple fact that this costs less than a reman afm this is good info anyway.
                    Your alter ego?

                    Hi Danny.
                    Need parts now? Need them cheap? steve@blunttech.com
                    Chief Sales Officer, Midwest Division—Blunt Tech Industries

                    www.gutenparts.com
                    One stop shopping for NEW, USED and EURO PARTS!

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                    • Dillinger
                      Wrencher
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 285

                      #100
                      Originally posted by z31maniac
                      Your alter ego?

                      Hi Danny.
                      5th time I have heard this I wouldnt have had a clue who we were talking about if it wasn't for the first two times.

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                      • Liam
                        Mod Crazy
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 753

                        #101
                        Hmmm, don't really know how to respond to this, other than to say... Nevermind.
                        I'm Not Right in the Head | Random Rants and other Nonsense1st Order Logic Failure: Association fallacy, this type of fallacy can be expressed as (∃xS : φ(x)) → (∀xS : φ(x)), meaning "if there exists any x in the set S so that a property φ is true for x, then for all x in S the property φ must be true".

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                        • guibo09
                          E30 Modder
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 834

                          #102
                          why are you guys hating on Liam? or calling him a liar? as far as i can tell, the guy said he was gonna buy the kit and experiment with it, and MAYBE run a dyno. so far within a week of this promise, he did just that. im sure if you're willing to pay for dyno time liam will make his paypal available...

                          the truth is dyno time costs money, did you dyno all the parts you bought individually to validate internet hearsay? i think not.

                          so unless there is something im missing, liam has always been really helpful and most importantly, really knowledgeable in his replies on the forum. treating him this way is a quick way to scare off the contributing people on this forum and be left with a bunch of douche bags.
                          90 E30 325i

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                          • Farbin Kaiber
                            Lil' Puppet
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 29502

                            #103
                            Yeah. Liam is not THAT bad a guy, never TOO boastful, and does not create a ruckus around here. Mebe he just acts like someone else. If he were that guy, do you think he would have gone and bought that conversion kit? Nope, he would have said he ordered it, but had to refuse shipment, and send it back due to spilling coffee on the box, or, not being able to find the technical diagrams to open said package.

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                            • Dillinger
                              Wrencher
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 285

                              #104
                              Originally posted by Farbin Kaiber
                              Yeah. Liam is not THAT bad a guy, never TOO boastful, and does not create a ruckus around here. Mebe he just acts like someone else. If he were that guy, do you think he would have gone and bought that conversion kit? Nope, he would have said he ordered it, but had to refuse shipment, and send it back due to spilling coffee on the box, or, not being able to find the technical diagrams to open said package.
                              Niether would get a fair shake anyway but... it's confirmed... he is that same guy... no doubt about it...

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                              • guibo09
                                E30 Modder
                                • Dec 2008
                                • 834

                                #105
                                Originally posted by Dillinger
                                Niether would get a fair shake anyway but... it's confirmed... he is that same guy... no doubt about it...

                                based on what proof? i think he deserves the benefit of the doubt? unless he starts being a douche or giving out false info, i dont see a problem.
                                90 E30 325i

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