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    #46
    that car fucking rocks. I know not a single one of you, could say you wouldnt want that sitting in your garage. If you've ever driven a 540i/6 and understand what torque is, and what happens when you put it in 3rd gear at 70 mph, you'll know why that engine is fucking amazing. Ive taken my 540i from 80-160 and its so smooth and powerful about it. Not to mention its underratted. My 97 was rated at 282 hp and 320 tq. With exhaust and a K&N filter it made 270 rwhp and 295 rwtq. Thats like 320 hp and 345 tq. I doubt a different muffler actually added 40 hp. Not to mention you could do all kinds of things to get plenty more power, like a chip, cams, head work, or an expensive supercharger. Go drive something with the M62 and you'll understand. Ive never in my life owned/driven a car with such a smooth engine. You can literally accelerate at 900 rpm in 3rd gear and its smooth as silk, no shaking or shuttering, just smooth shit. I cant even imagine what that would feel like in an E30. Props to this guy for what he's done (minus the e36 suspension geometry..) And yeah the m62 was reasonably well-designed. If you dont like 4 cams and an all aluminum engine, go to hell.

    edit: and talk about reliability. The only thing I had to replace on that engine between 75k-130k was the valve cover gaskets which tend to go at about 100 (I did them before I even saw anything leak). It has a timing chain so you dont have to change that everything 50k or something, nor do valves need adjustments at short intervals. It had a special oil system and held like 8 quarts of oil, so when I changed my oil, it did cost me like 40 bucks for synthetic and the filter. It never leaked oil and I got about 21 mpg average (mainly city) in the 3720 lb 540. I could go on for hours, i love the m62.

    Im not saying anything bad about the m42 either. I remember a friend of a friend had an e30 with one, and the kid really could drive. He held with my friends 1.8t gti that had exhaust an a bc to about 60, it was hilarious (friend sucked at launching that gti)
    Last edited by bmwmike; 01-19-2006, 09:29 AM.

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      #47
      Originally posted by bmwmike
      If you've ever driven a 540i/6 and understand what torque is, and what happens when you put it in 3rd gear at 70 mph, you'll know why that engine is fucking amazing.
      I think they're good looking vehicles and now I really need to drive one after your description.

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        #48
        hahaha a lot happens when you go to class for a hour or so....I know my car is nowhere near perfect....I do love it though and I have tons of love for the m42 ;) gosh there are tons of cars that are far superior to my car. I guess all I am trying to say it I think the m42 is a lot better than people give it credit. I know that the m42 lacks a ton of power thats why I decided to turbo it...I know that if someone turbo's their m20...ie like matt's car...it would kill mine...I don't care...The 318is is the most fun e30 I have driven (I obviously have not driven the e30 m3...and can't afford one right now anyway) and it just needs a little more power for fun. If I wanted a really fast car I would have bought like a c4 or something.
        ///Alpinweiß II 24v 91' 318is, Alpinweiß III 99' 323i, 04' Yamaha R6 SE for sale, 00' VW GTi, 83' El Camino BURNED, 01' P71sold, 92' Miatasold

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          #49
          Originally posted by asubimmer
          I do think kinda cool but dumb....its gonna be easy to r3v a unbalanced car like that.
          Just because I think its stupid to do that for anything but drag racing does not make me inexperienced in the least.
          A heavier engine up front will make a car tend to understeer, not oversteer and make you r3v.

          Originally posted by asubimmer
          Just like I decided not to put in a heavy engine in my 318is and do a turbo instead. LIGHTER IS BETTER.
          Your turbo kit's gonna add weight too. Think about all the hoses, IC, turbo, manifold (esp if you get cast), mounting hardware, bracketry, etc. required to install a turbo. Also, the weight will be well forward of the front axle.

          Originally posted by whysimon
          WTF is hello Kitty (I'm 28 with no kids and I don't have cable)

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            #50
            Originally posted by FredK
            A heavier engine up front will make a car tend to understeer, not oversteer and make you r3v.



            Your turbo kit's gonna add weight too. Think about all the hoses, IC, turbo, manifold (esp if you get cast), mounting hardware, bracketry, etc. required to install a turbo. Also, the weight will be well forward of the front axle.
            yeah the car will understeer but last time I checked if you can't turn then you are prob gonna run into a freakin wall or something....balance is the key...over AND understeer is not good...unless you are a drifter ;)

            And yeah obviously the turbo is going to add weight!!!! what kind of moron are you?!?!?! its not going to be 100lbs + the heavier tranny though

            and you have to take crap out for the turbo to fit in the right place also...tis why I don't have a windsheild wiper fluid resv. anymore...air box...and tons of other little things...and yes anyone could take that crap out even if they didn't want to do a turbo so its not really special or anything...its just part of the turboing of a m42
            ///Alpinweiß II 24v 91' 318is, Alpinweiß III 99' 323i, 04' Yamaha R6 SE for sale, 00' VW GTi, 83' El Camino BURNED, 01' P71sold, 92' Miatasold

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              #51
              Gees, if we get into this argument one more time....

              They are two different cars in my opinion, the 318is has a kind of charm about it, it is fun to drive...wouldn't have another as a daily though.

              Why?

              1) Lack of tq
              2) Gas mileage savings isn't substantial enough for all lost grunt.
              3) It's annoying when you're not going balls out (buzzes)

              ...On the opposite end of the spectrum, I believe it's got more 'charm' than say a m20 car.

              Why?

              1) It's more of a momentum car, requires you to be that much more smooth/fluid with your motions during 'spirited driving'.
              2) Hanging out on the right side of the tach is fun!

              Also, I might add that I think these cars, because of the fact that they're momentum cars, are excellent cars to learn on...really wish I had the chance to track mine.

              Anyway, for a daily/autox/DE hybrid i'd have a m20 "i" car in a heartbeat, simply has a more pleasing sound, has enough tq that you don't have to wring it out to get any kind power.
              Trevor Ely
              '95 M Sport 540i - '00 A4 1.8TQMS - '85 190E 2.3-16
              '88 535is - '87 325e - '89 325is - '91 318is - '90 325is - '96 328is

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                #52
                Originally posted by bmwm3n528
                Gees, if we get into this argument one more time....

                They are two different cars in my opinion, the 318is has a kind of charm about it, it is fun to drive...wouldn't have another as a daily though.

                Why?

                1) Lack of tq
                2) Gas mileage savings isn't substantial enough for all lost grunt.
                3) It's annoying when you're not going balls out (buzzes)

                ...On the opposite end of the spectrum, I believe it's got more 'charm' than say a m20 car.

                Why?

                1) It's more of a momentum car, requires you to be that much more smooth/fluid with your motions during 'spirited driving'.
                2) Hanging out on the right side of the tach is fun!

                Also, I might add that I think these cars, because of the fact that they're momentum cars, are excellent cars to learn on...really wish I had the chance to track mine.

                Anyway, for a daily/autox/DE hybrid i'd have a m20 "i" car in a heartbeat, simply has a more pleasing sound, has enough tq that you don't have to wring it out to get any kind power.
                wisdom...haha the m42 does have a very different sound :twisted: but I must say the straight 6 is the most wonderfull sound
                ///Alpinweiß II 24v 91' 318is, Alpinweiß III 99' 323i, 04' Yamaha R6 SE for sale, 00' VW GTi, 83' El Camino BURNED, 01' P71sold, 92' Miatasold

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                  #53
                  You're exaggerating the effect of installing the M62. It isn't just a straight line car. It's just going to flat out haul in a straight line and on a track. Maybe on a slow and torturous auto-X it might not. Yes, if he installed a Chevy 502, there would be a severe balance issue. Not on the M62.

                  With regards to understeer, the M62 is not going to make you steer into a wall. It's called using the accelerator to change the balance of the car. With a V8 getting on the throttle can actually make the car do something.

                  Originally posted by whysimon
                  WTF is hello Kitty (I'm 28 with no kids and I don't have cable)

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                    #54
                    asubimmer = dumb

                    I like how everyone with a M42 will defend it to the end of the earth. But reality strikes them and they upgrade to a 6cyl.

                    Originally posted by DaveCN
                    Welcome.

                    Your car is a piece of shit.

                    Most of them here are, too.

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                      #55
                      Where's Morgan at?
                      Trevor Ely
                      '95 M Sport 540i - '00 A4 1.8TQMS - '85 190E 2.3-16
                      '88 535is - '87 325e - '89 325is - '91 318is - '90 325is - '96 328is

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by grapedrink
                        asubimmer = dumb

                        I like how everyone with a M42 will defend it to the end of the earth. But reality strikes them and they upgrade to a 6cyl.
                        The only thing really goin for the M42 is the fact that it's basically a maintenance free engine. Timing chain, hydraulic valves, coils packs. I've never had to do anything to mine except change oil.

                        It's fun to r3v too.

                        TJ, when did you beat an M3 with r-compounds? It must not be a very good feeling, just ask Mike Abraham....

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                          #57
                          In Hialeah last fall after my tranny swap.

                          I was pretty close to Mike in Zephyrhills when my car is auto too, within 1 second IIRC. I know you took him down

                          RISING EDGE

                          Let's drive fast and have fun.

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                            #58
                            If you sprinkle pixydust on a 318is it causes it to shit ice cream sandwiches.

                            The point is this car > 318is. The 318is is a good car but the 200lbs weight advantage isnt even going to come close to making up for the power disadvantage. Also judging by the wheels it looks like he changed the stoppies too.
                            Im now E30less.
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                              #59
                              Damn that thing is awesome. I love how the brake setup is basically right behind the driver side headlights, cuz there isn't anywhere else. Clean install too, which I would think would be hard with no extra room.
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                                #60
                                nice, 4 pages of arguing.

                                Bottom line: if you haven't driven a V8 E30, you can't comment on how it handles.

                                back on topic- Very nice project, would love take that for a spin :D
                                Chris
                                90 Corrado/91 M3/01 M5

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