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  • thejimlab
    E30 Addict
    • Oct 2004
    • 588

    #16
    Originally posted by Digitalwave
    Any of which cars I'd rather own over an early 318i like yours.
    ouch! why you gotta be like that man! I know it's slow, but that's part of the plans. I'm talking to a guy a few towns over who has an m10 bored out to 92mm with an m3 crank in it. I could get it pretty cheap, then I would have a reason to learn some megasquirt. It was either that or swap in an m20/m42/whatever. My first thought was to swap in another motor, but if I could get that motor and swap it in for the same amount of money I would be spending on a used motor/tranny, why not go with the rebuilt motor? Then I would have the lightness of the mighty 318i with a little more power to push it around. It's just a project. If I really wanted a nice, shiny, e30 I would have spent the money for one. As it stands right now, I have less the $800 into my car, including the cost of the car.

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    • Charlie
      kid tested, administrator approved
      • Oct 2003
      • 6686

      #17
      Unless it's got a major motor underneath the hood, most e30's can't pull it off.

      I might do it if I ever get my 'ic "t-bucket" idea off the ground.

      -Charlie
      Swing wild, brake later, don't apologize.
      '89 324d, '76 02, '98 318ti, '03 Z4, '07 MCS, '07 F800s - Bonafide BMW elitist prick.
      FYYFF

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      • equate975
        No R3VLimiter
        • Jun 2004
        • 3382

        #18
        Maybe for a no show and all go track car, but I think it would get ugly for a daily, maybe not.

        Theres many worse things you can do though, Im impartial
        Rollin' with a Geistkuchen

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        • Digitalwave
          is a poseur
          • Oct 2003
          • 6280

          #19
          Originally posted by thejimlab
          ouch! why you gotta be like that man! I know it's slow, but that's part of the plans. I'm talking to a guy a few towns over who has an m10 bored out to 92mm with an m3 crank in it. I could get it pretty cheap, then I would have a reason to learn some megasquirt. It was either that or swap in an m20/m42/whatever. My first thought was to swap in another motor, but if I could get that motor and swap it in for the same amount of money I would be spending on a used motor/tranny, why not go with the rebuilt motor? Then I would have the lightness of the mighty 318i with a little more power to push it around. It's just a project. If I really wanted a nice, shiny, e30 I would have spent the money for one. As it stands right now, I have less the $800 into my car, including the cost of the car.
          I wasn't refering to you, rather to the guy the said flat black belongs on Civics etc.

          I dunno about stroking an M10, it still would make less power than an M20, cost a lot more, and probably be less reliable.

          RISING EDGE

          Let's drive fast and have fun.

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          • FredK
            R3V OG
            • Oct 2003
            • 14747

            #20
            I may have a complete M42 swap (engine, trans, all accessories) up for grabs when I do a S50 swapizzle. It would be cheap, I gots a buck seventy seven on the clock. Still pulls strong though, I have a Dinan chip in the ECU.

            Anyway, your paint looks pretty good for a car from 84, especially in an area where most red E30s have peeling clearcoat etc. If you're gonna get it professionally sprayed I'd do a basecoat clearcoat job, if you're doing it in your garage, I'd use a less poisonous paint and just go at it with a decently forgiving shade.

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            • SpecM
              R3V Elite
              • Oct 2005
              • 4531

              #21
              -"eighty-six", as in Ae86, is "hatchi-roko" (sp?) in Japanese

              -I'm still not sure about the flat black e30, tho
              1989 cirrisblau-metallic 325i

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              • Grant
                E30 Addict
                • Dec 2004
                • 526

                #22
                If it isn't a stock color, it isn't cool on an e30. That being said, I think it looks great and I thought of it a couple years ago. But like I said, stock is best.
                Grant Wescott
                1991 Sterling Silver 325iX stock (daily driver)
                1991 Black 325i stock (parts)

                "Eine Wurst, drei Größe"

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                • equate975
                  No R3VLimiter
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 3382

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Grant
                  If it isn't a stock color, it isn't cool on an e30. That being said, I think it looks great and I thought of it a couple years ago. But like I said, stock is best.
                  diegom's car begs to differ

                  although for the most part I would agree
                  Rollin' with a Geistkuchen

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                  • costanza
                    Noobie
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 22

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Digitalwave
                    Any of which cars I'd rather own over an early 318i like yours.
                    Why..I've owned a few versions of all of those cars so I can say whatever the fawk I want about 'em. It's nothing against them though, but rather the Sport Compact Car reading public that take a perfectly good OE paint job, sand it off and spray on 20 bucks worth of Kylon to acheive some look reserved for broke ass greasers 50 years ago.

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                    • browntown
                      No R3VLimiter
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 3524

                      #25
                      have it primed in black, evaluate, then paint it a real color.

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                      • Matt86es
                        Mod Crazy
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 616

                        #26
                        Why is the hood on that ugly satin E30 popped?

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                        • terrybpp
                          Grease Monkey
                          • Sep 2004
                          • 340

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Digitalwave
                          I wasn't refering to you, rather to the guy the said flat black belongs on Civics etc.

                          I dunno about stroking an M10, it still would make less power than an M20, cost a lot more, and probably be less reliable.
                          Cost more yes, be less powerful yes, but less reliable? Chain vs. belt.

                          I have heard using a S14 crank w/ a 2.0 m10 will get you around 190 hp N/A (absolutley quoting hear say). But as I have already done....just slap a turbo/ and MS and call it a day.

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                          • nando
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 34827

                            #28
                            Originally posted by terrybpp
                            Cost more yes, be less powerful yes, but less reliable? Chain vs. belt.
                            So you'd rather spend more money on an engine that makes less power because a chain is somehow more reliable than a belt? Every time somebody mentions the M20 belt I just have to laugh. It's like $40 in parts and takes about an hour to do, what's the big fucking deal? If you're a moron and drive it for 70,000 miles before changing then you get what you deserve..
                            Build thread

                            Bimmerlabs

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                            • cgregory
                              Wrencher
                              • Dec 2004
                              • 219

                              #29
                              Originally posted by terrybpp
                              Cost more yes, be less powerful yes, but less reliable? Chain vs. belt.

                              I have heard using a S14 crank w/ a 2.0 m10 will get you around 190 hp N/A (absolutley quoting hear say). But as I have already done....just slap a turbo/ and MS and call it a day.
                              I'm gonna call BS on whoever said that. A stock S14 with more displacement and a much better flowing DOHC 16v head only makes 195bhp.

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                              • terrybpp
                                Grease Monkey
                                • Sep 2004
                                • 340

                                #30
                                Originally posted by nando
                                So you'd rather spend more money on an engine that makes less power because a chain is somehow more reliable than a belt? Every time somebody mentions the M20 belt I just have to laugh. It's like $40 in parts and takes about an hour to do, what's the big fucking deal? If you're a moron and drive it for 70,000 miles before changing then you get what you deserve..
                                I'm just saying that there are tons of m10's that have never been opened up with 200k miles on them. But every m20 has to be opened up every 50k miles so that the belt doesn't fly apart and destroy the head. Not exactly reliable.

                                Yeah, after I wrote the 190 hp thing it didn't seem quite right. I've definelty heard of the setup but never seen it applied or in action.

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