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    Originally posted by Joe318is View Post
    Hamilton isnt a bad driver but i will point out that when last years Mclaren [aka Ferrari] was showing speed, it was more the car than the drivers. Hamilton does have the ability to do well, but he HAS to have the right eqipment behind him.
    I agree and this can be said for a number of F1 drivers. I look at someone like Mark Webber who more often than not qualifies pretty well and is usually a mid-field car most races....but that's because he is saddled with a less-than-ideal racecar. Put him in a better machine and you're likely to see better results. I think the same can be said for the likes of Trulli, Rosberg and Vettel.

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      Originally posted by Jon325i View Post
      I agree and this can be said for a number of F1 drivers. I look at someone like Mark Webber who more often than not qualifies pretty well and is usually a mid-field car most races....but that's because he is saddled with a less-than-ideal racecar. Put him in a better machine and you're likely to see better results. I think the same can be said for the likes of Trulli, Rosberg and Vettel.

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        Originally posted by z31maniac View Post
        Webber and Vettel will hopefully be the Red Bull drivers next year, and hopefully they will find a bit more speed.

        I've always been a huge Webber fan.
        I agree, the Red Bull car is coming in leaps and bounds, not to mention Webber is a very good driver and Vettel has been developing very well from his premier race in the BMW at Indianapolis. He has come very close to a podium finish several times in what is basically an older version of the RB4. But I think Red Bull will become what BMW used to be, the "Best of the Rest" unless Renault does something drastic. Toyota is right behind them as well.

        Also, Adrian Newey has obviously designed an amazing car when you consider Red Bull has twice the amount of points compared to their engine provider Renault. I think that will only get better with the coming years. My only question that remains is where will Coulthard go? I think what would be funny is if Toro Rosso reverts back to Minardi in 2009 or 2010 whenever the FIA rule comes into effect and Coulthard goes there.
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          Lebron took a little while, Kobe took two years and after that the "Hype" was justified. We will see. You are a hater if you have already passed judgement, you know what happens when you pre....judge.

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            I have already judged, but am open to changing my judgment lol so what is that called?
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              Just saying the Falcons wish they didnt pass judgement on Brett Favre too soon.

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                Originally posted by E30Kaiser View Post
                Also, Adrian Newey has obviously designed an amazing car when you consider Red Bull has twice the amount of points compared to their engine provider Renault. I think that will only get better with the coming years. My only question that remains is where will Coulthard go? I think what would be funny is if Toro Rosso reverts back to Minardi in 2009 or 2010 whenever the FIA rule comes into effect and Coulthard goes there.
                Well, you saw McLaren was capable of with (then ex-Williams designer) Newey back in the mid-90's. They were a very strong force that certainly caught Ferrari off guard multiple years. Newey is an excellent designer and has produced major results everywhere he has been. I doubt Coulthard will be in F1 in 2009, it's just my opinion, but the guy has to be getting the feeling that he's been in the game for much too long.

                Originally posted by sennafan View Post
                Lebron took a little while, Kobe took two years and after that the "Hype" was justified. We will see. You are a hater if you have already passed judgement, you know what happens when you pre....judge.
                Good grief, when it comes to Hamilton fanboys, you certainly top the cake. He is a decent driver, no better then Heikki or Rosberg in my opinion, but his relationship with Ron Dennis has made him a headline maker in the UK ever since he began winning karting races. Everyone saw him as the next big thing, a rising star, even the next Schumacher. So, it's 2007, he arrives on the scene, the first part of the season goes very well for him. The second part has a few hiccups here and there, particularly his unusual performance in China, but the general public writes it off as first-year jitters. It's 2008, he has dismal performance after dismal performance. Two races out of eight have been won by him, but the season as a whole hasn't gone well.

                When I pass judgement on him, I am looking at the facts. Say what you want, but I guess I'm Mister Hater if I am not with the country of UK and millions of other people in being a huge fan of him.

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                  Every interview I have read from Coulthard make it seem like he want to stay in for whatever reason, and I am sure a podium finish in Canada didn't help him getting the clue. It is basically confirmed that Vettel is going to Red Bull though, so who knows where Coulthard will end up if he does indeed stay. I know Barrichello is out though, he really doesn't have anything left to prove, and to me either does Coulthard. Unless he's trying to prove he can win a world championship which isn't going to happen, his chance at doing that was over 10 years ago.

                  *Tries to not talk about Hamilton since he has been labled a hater*
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                    I wouldnt classify myself as a "boy" but yes I am a fan! We know what fan is short for. If you think I am in the tank for Lewis, dont get me started on Graham Rahal:D

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                      Originally posted by TDE30 View Post
                      Good grief, when it comes to Hamilton fanboys, you certainly top the cake.
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                      Dude, youre the number 1 BMW fanboy. Yes, we root for them but most of us are realistic. Theyve been fortunate so far. The only reason they get anywhere within the top four is because of mistakes/failures of the top two teams. They are nowhere near them in terms of race pace.

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                        Originally posted by madjurgen View Post
                        Dude, youre the number 1 BMW fanboy. Yes, we root for them but most of us are realistic. Theyve been fortunate so far. The only reason they get anywhere within the top four is because of mistakes/failures of the top two teams. They are nowhere near them in terms of race pace.
                        Esh, I wouldn't say that's always the case. They're making huge improvements and Ferrari and McMerc don't seem to be improving at the same rate. Teams like Toyota or Renault are "fortunate" with their results, BMW-Sauber is just consistent, I can't think of any other way to put it. Fanboy or not, it's hard to ignore over two years of solid results.























                        Alright, I'm a BMW-Sauber fanboy.

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                          Ill be the Ferrari fan boy. Nothing wrong with that


                          Originally posted by vlad
                          Do you know anybody else who built that many bad ass E30s?

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                            Originally posted by Joe318is View Post


                            Ill be the Ferrari fan boy. Nothing wrong with that
                            True that, you can't over hype Ferrari because they always win!
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                              What do you guys think about Piquet being told to bag groceries unless he gets his head out of his butt? It seemed like he tried harder in France since his job is on the line. 7th ain't too shabby.

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                                I think hes doing as best he can. The renault is crap and Alonso is a much better driver, so Alonso's results are because of his abilities.

                                Piquet will be out of a job next year, or in a lesser team.


                                Originally posted by vlad
                                Do you know anybody else who built that many bad ass E30s?

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