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Originally posted by e30davie View PostWould love to hear some details on these major maintenance issues. Generally when you search " X car issues" on internet all you hear is the bad stories.
hpfp prone to fail I replace mine twice in 1yr, one cam from bmw as a faulty part
injectors prone to fail relatively early direct injection tech(DI is still pretty rubbish)
direct injection carbon build up which just add the “walnut blast” to the service cycle
spark plugs last 20,000km & iridium plugs are expensive to replace multiple time per year
habit of spitting cooler pipes which is remedied by getting rid of the factory cool & charge pipes
waste gate rattle which could translate into loosing boost - mine started to develop this
that hat said I made 268rwkw & 540nm of torque, could cook tyres through 3rd with 295’s on the rear.
my wifey has an f20 m135i for the Americans bmw hatchback which you didn’t get for some weird reason, it’s running an late n55 & it’s been perfect in the near 2yrs we’ve had it.
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Originally posted by lukeADE335i View PostHave heard the N55s are much more reliable - so maybe just get a really late e82 (say 2013?) if you want one?
Some of the issues like the electric water pump etc. aren't as big a deal these days as they have come down in price somewhat.
If you get the DCT know that there are a few replacement parts available, but again unless you do it yourself, most shops answer will be "We will put a new one"..........a new DCT is $10k
Here is one of the fun failure modes, if the OFHG starts leaking, it will eventually make the belt tensioner fail. And since the N55 has the harmonic balancer infront of the crank pulley, often the belt gets sucked behind the front main seal........hopefully it doesn't get into the bearings and trash the motor.
There is just a ton of stuff that go wrong that shouldn't really happen on any other modern car.
Since I basically needed to trade mine the day I confirmed what I heard, I'm not cruising around in a boring '18 Mazda 3 with 33k miles and factory warranty for as long as I'll keep it. It's boring, but it knocks down much better mpg, uses 87, etc, etc.Need parts now? Need them cheap? steve@blunttech.com
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Originally posted by z31maniac View PostThere is just a ton of stuff that go wrong that shouldn't really happen on any other modern car.
Since I basically needed to trade mine the day I confirmed what I heard, I'm not cruising around in a boring '18 Mazda 3 with 33k miles and factory warranty for as long as I'll keep it. It's boring, but it knocks down much better mpg, uses 87, etc, etc.
The e30 + Tesla Model 3 sounds a good combination!
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I'd rather have a 128i than a 135i, long term anyway.
Originally posted by e30davie View PostWould love to hear some details on these major maintenance issues. Generally when you search " X car issues" on internet all you hear is the bad stories.Last edited by nando; 09-25-2019, 07:36 AM.
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I owned an E82 125i (we do not get the 128i in EU) for a year. It is a fun car indeed, same size of the E36 3 series and maybe a bit lighter (mine weighed in at 1,400 kgs with 17" winter wheels and tires and 2/3 tank).
Last NA engine from BMW, just lovely how refined the N52 is over the M20, but exactly the same character (foot down, nothing happens till you hit 4,000 to 4,200 rpms then it starts really going).
Sadly, i had to do a lot of work to get it "on par", such as flash the DME to unlock the power from 217hp to 265-ish or so. KW V3 coilovers installed and only then did it start to handle good, but even then it is nothing compared to my E30 325i M-Suspension handling wise.
It has a surprising amount of space but, why i sold it and got to the E30 is.....well track days for that car is expensive. Special order pads, upgraded to bigger E82 330mm front discs and it was a headache to find some proper light 17" wheels and matching slicks for track days. No one really "tunes" the E82 in Germany, just software and coilovers and you are done.
E30 is obviously much much more supported if you are looking for a daily, track car or a fun dual purpose machine (like mine). Parts are dirt cheap, always available (running parts that is such as discs, pads, oils etc) and handles so much better than the E82 with coil overs.
E30, especially the touring, is very desirable indeed, and the beauty of the E30 over the E82, is that all you need is simple hand tools. No need for OBD scanner, fault codes or remove the whole rear half od plastic covers to access engine components. Everything is visible, easy to get to and easy to fix.
Today, thinking about it, i should had purchased the E30 325i from the start, i invested a lot into that 125i and lost some money selling it, but i did have fun with it. Granted, i smile everytime i start my E30 and just love how you insert a key, start the car, and just drive (no computers, screens, warning bongs etc).
Id go for the E30 touring, but just remember, these cars are 30+ years old now, expect some work that, while parts are cheap, could cost you a lot, especially how bad the rust is. But go drive both back and forth for extended periods and make the choice yourself.
FYI: The E30 touring is one of those cars, that will just definitely jump in valve very soon, i believe anyways.
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Well, do you wanna go fast as shit or slow as fuck?
Two VERY different cars, in their stock form.
Keep forever? definitely an e30.. I would never buy a "modern" BMW with the intention of it lasting for ever, let alone owning one until it dies.
E30 is way cooler IMO, going up in value and will def stand the test of time if you care for it.
The E82 is quite literally the opposite, BUT IT GO FAST DUUUUUUURRRRR
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Originally posted by MrBurgundy View PostWell, do you wanna go fast as shit or slow as fuck?
Two VERY different cars, in their stock form.
Keep forever? definitely an e30.. I would never buy a "modern" BMW with the intention of it lasting for ever, let alone owning one until it dies.
E30 is way cooler IMO, going up in value and will def stand the test of time if you care for it.
The E82 is quite literally the opposite, BUT IT GO FAST DUUUUUUURRRRR
Audi's are now more reliable than BMWs. How insane is that?Need parts now? Need them cheap? steve@blunttech.com
Chief Sales Officer, Midwest Division—Blunt Tech Industries
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Originally posted by z31maniac View PostAudi's are now more reliable than BMWs. How insane is that?
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