Cab got an M3

[thirdlobe]

I really do like the Style 19s - So much I just picked up a pair.

[Cabriolet]

I really do like the Style 19s - So much I just picked up a pair.

they'll be for sale in a month.

[theBAYsics]

saw the car on viveks driveway not too long ago when i went to pickup some parts. lookin clean!

[///schwartzman]

Welcome to the real addiction...

[BlackbirdM3]

Under 50 miles an hour it's a dog. Over 50 oh my god. 35 in first. 60in second and 85a in 3rd. I havent maxed out 4th yet.

As compared to what? A Porsche GT2? These are not a dog below 50 mph. I seriously don't understand why people say this. The S14 was the highest output NA 4 cyl built at that time. Even now, I think you will have trouble finding a NA 4 cyl that makes as much. Quit smoking crack and go drive your car.

Looks to be a clean car, but the rust on the underside is surprising. Mine has been all over the world (Germany, US, Japan, Canada and now back in the US), and doesn't look that bad under there. A '91 M3 is a very rare creature.

Will

[Cabriolet]

My S14 needs a valve adjustment very bad. and i'm comparing this to my freshly built, chipped M20. the M20 hands down sounds 100% better and has much better low end torque so faster off the line. the M3 is god in the hills and is much faster once it's moving.

[///schwartzman]

Don't procrastinate on the adjustment unless you want to refresh or buy another head... There was a Volvo shim kit on amazon.com once you get the head sorted and a few upgrades like CF airbox you'll have M20 amnesia... I would give my 325is a head start stock vs stock.

[bmwstephen]

My S14 needs a valve adjustment very bad. and i'm comparing this to my freshly built, chipped M20. the M20 hands down sounds 100% better and has much better low end torque so faster off the line. the M3 is god in the hills and is much faster once it's moving.

eric,

you have the opportunity to experience both e30 versions (s14 and m20). id say when it comes time to sell your cab, throw an ad for the m3 as well. which ever sells first you let go and keep the one left over.

[bernzpeed]

eric,

you have the opportunity to experience both e30 versions (s14 and m20). id say when it comes time to sell your cab, throw an ad for the m3 as well. which ever sells first you let go and keep the one left over.

why would he sell the M3 when he just got it? that's the reason he is selling the Mtech

[bmwstephen]

Eh, just sounds like he is conflicted between both cars. Thought id throw that one up there, having been in similar situation albiet not about cars. I did recall him mentioning that if someone was going to give him what he got the m3 for he would let it go. Unless I misread

Sent from the heavens

[reelizmpro]

Eh, just sounds like he is conflicted between both cars. Thought id throw that one up there, having been in similar situation albiet not about cars. I did recall him mentioning that if someone was going to give him what he got the m3 for he would let it go. Unless I misread

Sent from the heavens

I got the same impression from another post. I will say that these old M engines are finicky and need to be maintained especially with the S14's buzzy nature. Valve adjustment is critical and there are so many things that affect performance. On my silver car, I once dyno'd an embarrassing 140HP or so at the wheels after I installed cams/headers. During my Alpha N setup, I found I wasn't getting full throttle. What had happened was the throttle cable had stretched. I was only getting about 60% throttle. My point is, you really have to know the S14 to keep it at it's full potential. I'd bet that a lot of them aren't and I feel people are quick to blame the S14. A chip in an S14 makes about the same difference as a chip in an ETA. In other words, it's a huge difference. There's no way an M20B25 would keep up with a properly tuned S14. The S14 actually has more peak torque as well, it's just that you have to keep the RPM's in a certain range to take advantage of it. Someone coming from a 325i wouldn't understand that nearly as quick as a 318i M42 guy would.

[Cabriolet]

I just got my mtech2 running today and it's way smoother than my M3 but I'd say now having my M3 for a few months that the M20 is way slower on the freeway. in a drag below 60mph i'd bet the M20 wins but the S14 is way way faster 60mph+ and barry is very right. my S14 needs a chip, needs the valves done, hedgasket and exhaust.
the S14 has to be above 4k-rpm. it's a race engine, not a commute in traffic car.

[///schwartzman]

Wow, but it looks mostly like surface rust... Most likely picked up in Illinois. Buy the POR-15 touch up kit @$30 do as thorough an undercarriage cleaning as possible, and shoot it with the POR-15.

You can ditch the fuel accumulator. You should look into a Bosch -044 fuel pump @$200 (and Porsche banjo fittings @$17) exceeds factory pump pressure and cheaper... just make sure its made in the Czech Republic not Chinese knock off.

Yeah the M20 may seem faster because of its torque but I traded my 325is + for my M and we lined them up, and the M won in the 1/4 and mile runs we did... by a couple car lengths in the 1/4, more in the mile. I even raced it with my current compression 8.8:1 and it was close but I still won ;)

[vtecpower]

Eric, please address my concerns about your friend harassing me. I have posted them in my thread. Thanks.

[golde30]

What^^?