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  • SkiFree
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    Originally posted by stanhayward View Post
    You're building the 2002 BMW wish they had.
    Danke! Hope all is well up there Stanley.

    Originally posted by LateFan View Post
    Evurbody likes a nugget!
    Right?!

    10.2.17 Fab Day 1


    Great progress was made on Saturday. It was “fabrication day” #1. I was extremely grateful to have the help of Jesus and Sergio, together we were able to knock out nearly everything on my list.

    Maestro has been continuing to work in the engine bay and had gotten to the point of laying down a thick coat of zinc-rich primer.

    Keep in mind everything here has been done with keeping the fabrication minimally invasive while improving structural rigidity throughout the chassis.
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    Before we get to the meat, here’s a warning. These are the inner bottom portions of each front fender. This is on a car that showed NO external signs of rust (anyone could have easily called it “rust free”). The fenders had never been removed and so there was a generous helping of body sealer covering/”sealing” this area from corrosion. This is a somber reminder that rust needs to be sought out, and never assume anything. The only way to correct it is to face it head on, a lot of times I’ve seen clients pull an Ostrich (I can’t [or don’t want to] see it, therefor it doesn’t exist) only to be bit in the butt later on.






    In the trunk we stitch welded the center divider and rear panel between the shock towers. Note that Maestro has been working on the trunk area.




    In the interior we removed the spot welds from the shifter surround and plugged the hole. Then we repositioned the surround 2.5” rearward and cut a new hole.










    In addition we stitch welded the seat mounts, rear seat panel, and the e-brake sheet metal.




    Lastly on the interior, Sergio welded in some captive nuts for new seat-belt mounting points on the B-pillars.




    In the engine bay we removed a number of the unnecessary tabs/brackets.






    I plan on running the later-style heater core, so we enlarged the coolant hose holes up a smidgen.




    Since the front radiator support panel had to now be removable we ended up extending the side sheet metal sections by .5 inches, note that we mimiced the lip as well. We also liberated a few mounting tabs from an e24 and welded them on for the front-most tabs.



    The result is a removable panel that could be mistaken as factory, by someone who didn’t know better. I’ll still add a couple mounting bolts.




    And that just about wrapped up the day!

    Still to come before paint:

    1)Front frame rail gussets
    2)Additional stitch welding
    3)Converting to later style-fuel filler (debating)
    4)Oil cooler hole and mounting
    5)Coilpack mounting holes
    6)Washer bottle mounting holes
    7)Coolant reservoir and oil catch-can mounting holes
    8)Front frame-rail support
    9)Radiator mounts
    10)Engine-bay headlight box cover/beauty panels
    11)Grind off accelerator pedal mounting tab

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  • LateFan
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    Evurbody likes a nugget!

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  • stanhayward
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    You're building the 2002 BMW wish they had. This car is what dreams are made of!

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  • SkiFree
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    Originally posted by 2mAn View Post
    Theres always a vice. Booze is the most common. If he is a "non-drinker" chances are he likes certain sodas or Root Beers. I like Thomas Kemper Black Cherry Soda. Insane amount of pure cane sugar lol
    Originally posted by CubbyChowder View Post
    I'm sure he'd appreciate a night out at his favorite restaurant with his significant other (if he has one). Maybe he's even got a specific tool in mind that he really wants but doesn't want to actually spend money on, I know I have plenty of those :D

    Not gonna lie, I'm anxious to see the car completed with the rack installed! You should absolutely swing by my shop on your way up next year, would be stoked to meet you and chit chat for awhile (and see the car in person too!).
    Thanks guys, that gives me some ideas.

    Well this weekend wasn't quite the "fabfest" I was hoping for. We had a client come in with a very rusty rocker on his 2002, so the bulk of the time was spent there.


    However, the hood has now been tackled by maestro. On the right side there was a pretty sharp dent he managed to tap out and then go over with a thin filler layer.





    Now the engine-bay bodywork has begun! Note the frame rails are now stitch welded to the inner fenders. This is a nice touch when building a race 2002, so it makes sense here. I still need to remove "shave" a few things and the fab work will mess up some of the progress, such is life.




    Lunch-break progress (don't mind the nuggets). Laid out the freshly-chromed bumpers. A fellow 2002 friend runs a hotrod shop and I asked him about chrome work. He was kind enough to do my parts with a batch of his own!




    First step was to paint the insides of the bumpers with a nice industrial paint.

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  • CubbyChowder
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    Originally posted by SkiFree View Post
    He's just awesome. I want to buy him booze but he doesn't drink? Got to find some way to show my appreciation.

    Can't wait to get this thing going and slap a certain roof rack on it. The plan is to drive it up the coast next year to the Bay Area 02 show, will have to swing by your place.
    I'm sure he'd appreciate a night out at his favorite restaurant with his significant other (if he has one). Maybe he's even got a specific tool in mind that he really wants but doesn't want to actually spend money on, I know I have plenty of those :D

    Not gonna lie, I'm anxious to see the car completed with the rack installed! You should absolutely swing by my shop on your way up next year, would be stoked to meet you and chit chat for awhile (and see the car in person too!).

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  • 2mAn
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    Originally posted by SkiFree View Post
    He's just awesome. I want to buy him booze but he doesn't drink? Got to find some way to show my appreciation.
    Theres always a vice. Booze is the most common. If he is a "non-drinker" chances are he likes certain sodas or Root Beers. I like Thomas Kemper Black Cherry Soda. Insane amount of pure cane sugar lol

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  • LateFan
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    Interesting!

    You see some of those clean crisp lines and planes in Michelotti's work, like in the Sebring...

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    He did some nice airy greenhouses, and I love the high wheel arches with the body sitting way down over the wheels. TR6 is another example. Very interesting that he was a consultant / collaborator on the 02.

    Sorry to distract from your thread!

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  • SkiFree
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    Originally posted by paynemw View Post
    your pictures are broken! I can't wait until they're fixed! This looks awesome
    I'm on it, albeit slowly. Thanks for the kind words.

    Originally posted by CubbyChowder View Post
    Man, your boy Maestro is killing it, it even looks beautiful in primer! Love the amount of progress that's been happening lately!
    He's just awesome. I want to buy him booze but he doesn't drink? Got to find some way to show my appreciation.

    Can't wait to get this thing going and slap a certain roof rack on it. The plan is to drive it up the coast next year to the Bay Area 02 show, will have to swing by your place.


    Originally posted by LateFan View Post
    Aren't these two curves that come together at the corner of the hood sweet? Similar to the Alfa GTV nose, like maybe the '69 1750.

    This is interesting - Giugiaro was the young genius at Bertone who designed the Alfa Giulia GT, probably '62.


    "Georg Bertram, the co-designer with Manfred Rennen under Wilhelm Hofmeister of the so called Neue Klasse (New Class) - compact sports saloons launched by BMW in 1962, with the BMW 1500 as the first car; Bertram worked also with Rennen and Michelotti on BMW 2002 and 2002 touring; he is often credited with the first drawing of BMW 2002."
    Yes, I really like those lines as well. Great eye!

    Funny story, I first learned of the 2002 by a design Professor whose day job was drawing for Bertone. He used the car as an example of how a simple design with great proportions can, "on occasion", be more appealing than swoops and curves.

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  • LateFan
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    Did some quick homework - I never knew who designed the 1600 / 2002.

    "BMW's design director Wilhelm Hofmeister assigned the two-door project to staff designers Georg Bertram and Manfred Rennen."

    "Hofmeister influenced formation of the new BMW design philosophy, he was one of the creators of the BMW Neue Klasse (New Class, 1961) - technically new, modern, fast, sports sedans, which changed the automotive industry for decades; his innovative BMW 2000 C (1965), where he continued Bertone's ideas, was unjustly criticized at the time as a 'greenhouse' while the car's lamps were called 'Asian eyes' "

    This is interesting - Giugiaro was the young genius at Bertone who designed the Alfa Giulia GT, probably '62.


    "Georg Bertram, the co-designer with Manfred Rennen under Wilhelm Hofmeister of the so called Neue Klasse (New Class) - compact sports saloons launched by BMW in 1962, with the BMW 1500 as the first car; Bertram worked also with Rennen and Michelotti on BMW 2002 and 2002 touring; he is often credited with the first drawing of BMW 2002."

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  • LateFan
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    Aren't these two curves that come together at the corner of the hood sweet? Similar to the Alfa GTV nose, like maybe the '69 1750.

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    And your motor mock-up is SO nice.

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  • CubbyChowder
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    Man, your boy Maestro is killing it, it even looks beautiful in primer! Love the amount of progress that's been happening lately!

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  • paynemw
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    your pictures are broken! I can't wait until they're fixed! This looks awesome

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  • SkiFree
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    More progress on the bodywork.


    Maestro has really spent a lot of time the past couple days making sure the door gaps line up perfectly.




    With the trunk lid underside done, the top side was next. As with the other panels, the bare metal is sanded and hammered before small amounts of filler are added.



    Primer added over top.




    A few days were dedicated to getting the nose just right. This meant using a spare set of grills and a lot of metal shaping. I really think Maestro's actually a wizard. Once he was happy, on went the primer!






    Getting geared up for this weekend's "FabFest", hopefully I'll get that fabrication list completed so we can start looking at paint.

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  • LateFan
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    Originally posted by SkiFree View Post
    ...I'll stick the classy colors onto an E9 while rocking bright colors on the 2002.
    No, that makes perfect sense - the E9 really suits those colors.

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  • SkiFree
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    Originally posted by LateFan View Post

    Y'know, black looks really good on these...
    Lisa's car is gorgeous.... but I've never liked 2002's in "boring colors". It's a bit like trying to put a surfer dude or ski bum into a slick Armani suit. It works, but they can't wait to take it off. I'll stick the classy colors onto an E9 while rocking bright colors on the 2002.

    Ha, to each their own, that's just my opinion.


    Originally posted by MR 325 View Post
    Andrew, congrats on the new job! Definitely more your style. ;)

    I'm very excited to see progress continuing on the car! Love the new suspension too. :D
    Thanks Matt, great to be back in the fold.

    Solid mounted! #becauseracecar

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