Robbies alpine sedan 5cyl swap

[mdlimy]

I actually traded the war chipped ecu for stock one as he needed it for another car, and he helped me out with some parts also.
Hands down I would reccomend going standalone if your going to boost the car, if you are on a budget I would suggest ms, if you can spare the extra cash the vems unit is well well worth the extra coin.
Who ever told you a shitty idle is part of running on standalone either knows nothing about tuning or is talking out their ass.
I can understand a smooth idle being hard to attain if using large injectors(1000cc+) on pump gas but for 250-400whp build using pump gas a smooth idle won't be hard to attain at all.
There are a few ways to get the idle how you want but using the iacv is the best way, it will require more tweaking and tuning but it is in my opinion the best way to get a smooth consistant idle.
In my experience with ms, I ran it for almost two years on my volvo and did not have a single issue with reliability, you never have to worry about a maf or o2 sensor taking a shit and making the car run shitty. You know exactly what the motor is doing and it only does what you tell it to do.
If your going boost, fork out the money for a standalone, get it properlly installed(take your time) and then spend the money on a good tuner, it will be the best decision you will ever make. If it was up to me I would install standalone before boosting it and get a good n/a tune and get the car running perfect, will cause you much much less headaches when you do turbo it.

[ROLLingKING]

If it was up to me I would install standalone before boosting it and get a good n/a tune and get the car running perfect, will cause you much much less headaches when you do turbo it.

you just said it right there. For some reason I thought I would have to wait until the turbo to start messin with standalone. That would be a great way to start of. i heard theres a guy whodwho or somethin that puts together some MS package and makes it easy to understand. im still hearing both sides of the story. slowly but its starting to piece together.

Thanks for sharing your opinion bruh

[Simon S]

Really enjoyed reading the progress on this. Well done.

Very no-nonsense. Can't wait to see it all together..

[mdlimy]

Whodwho makes a nice plug and play setup. Megasquirt is megasquirt, tuning is going to be the same either way, his setup just allows an easy clean install, I've heard nothing but good things about it. I liked my megasquirt but there were a few things I didn't like, the connectors were not ideal for its application, and it didn't support sequential injection, but they are very capable especially for the money, and since whodwho makes a pnp setup it makes it a good choice for these cars. Standalone will keep you occupied for a while, play around with it your self, do some street tuning and get to know the system, then when you want to make some power have a tuner play with it. Its amazing how much you will learn from playing with a standalone system, lots of fun!

[mdlimy]

god damn it, just typed up a huge post and then it disapeared, i give up, pictures do the talking.
Im putting a volvo 5cyl turbo motor in the car.
bought a 260/6 out of a 535i today, now i can buy the adapter plate and get rolling on it.
pulled the m20 this evening.

[alpinaclone]

Really waiting to see this. I like the volvo 5s a lot. Where are you going to source the trans adapter?

[mdlimy]

Really waiting to see this. I like the volvo 5s a lot. Where are you going to source the trans adapter?

KLRacing.se, a company in sweden, they make an adapter plate for the 5cyl to mate up to a g260/6 out of a 535i.
Sold my m50 today( thanks keith!)

Buying the volvo motor tommorow so i should have it sitting at home waiting for me when i get home from work. So tommorow night i will hang it in the engine bay and see what im up for.
Will post pics.

Robbie

[alpinaclone]

I know why I would use the white block, but what made you switch from the S/M50?

[Zasz]

I'd love to take those seats off of your hands :D

[mdlimy]

I know why I would use the white block, but what made you switch from the S/M50?

Well i never actually did the s/m50 swap, i had an m50b25nv out of an e36 but still had to aquire all the other parts to swap it and then even after all that i new i wouldnt be happy with NA, so i would end up boosting it.

I know the 5cyl volvo motors very well, and have alot of experience with them, a few other things persuaded me like:
-all alloy motor
-factory turbo
-capable of my goals without needing internals (350-400whp)
-sound freaking amazing
-no one has done it before
-smaller than the 6cylinders

all in all, after my buddy mentioned the idea of wanting to swap one into his porsche 944 it got me thinking and i didnt stop thinking and before i knew it i just couldnt say no.
My volvo was my baby for about 4 years and the last two of which i ran a big turbo and standalone ems and learned to love the motor more than anything and i think deep down this is a way for me to justify parting out that car which i regret every single day

Now that is said. Why would you use it? intrerested to know why...

[mdlimy]

I'd love to take those seats off of your hands :D

your like the 10th person to say that =p
im on the look out for some black vert seats, as soon as i find some, these will be up for sale, but so far there is a line of like 3 people =p

[ak-]

Really waiting to see this. I like the volvo 5s a lot. Where are you going to source the trans adapter?

Hey. Where have you been

[Keith M]

It was good to meet you today. I look forward to seeing your car when it is done.

[mdlimy]

It was great to meet you too keith, thanks for supporting build, i payed for my motor today and will recieve it tommorow, was hoping for today but thats alright, stay tuned for pictures!

[mdlimy]

oh look what showed up today....







Looks like it will work out pretty good, gonna push the trans forward about 4-6in and extend the driveshaft and shift linkage, this will help with intake manifold clearance around the brake booster.

Oil pan is going to be an issue, room is tight down around the subframe, i was planning on having to make a custom pan and i definetly will have to but its going to be tight.
Motor mounts shouldnt be all that bad.

Need to email the company that makes the adapter plate to ask some questions then order the adapter and bolt the trans up, im having a hard time picturing how this will work, but im sure it will.