My e30 DTM car copy build

[FredK]

guys. only one way to settle this one.

cock.

ruler.

pix.

now.






jk. I don't want to see any man meat this afternoon.

[StreuB1]

i suggested using a semi-stock M20 until the desired motor was available.

-shruggs-

Eric,

I am a very very strong advocate of S14's. I love them.
However, I really must agree with the others... if you don't plan on keeping the S14 in the car in the long run, do not bother to "build one up". Rebuild it to stock specs, or have it rebuilt for you. A well built stock S14 is way more powerful that most people know/think. No joke. Don't listen to the forum people who tell you otherwise, chances are they've never driven a well built stock S14.

If you're ultimate goal is to swap in a V8, and you're trying to replicate a DTM'esque car... here is some inspiration: http://www.s14.net/forums/showthread...ight=Wayne+DTM

Read/Look through the whole thing.

-C

[whiltebeitel]

If he's looking at the S62 seriously, The shop I have contacts with are building an E36 with the S62. They are doing a transfer from an Austrian racecar.

[///meric]

Eric,

I am a very very strong advocate of S14's. I love them.
However, I really must agree with the others... if you don't plan on keeping the S14 in the car in the long run, do not bother to "build one up". Rebuild it to stock specs, or have it rebuilt for you. A well built stock S14 is way more powerful that most people know/think. No joke. Don't listen to the forum people who tell you otherwise, chances are they've never driven a well built stock S14.

If you're ultimate goal is to swap in a V8, and you're trying to replicate a DTM'esque car... here is some inspiration: http://www.s14.net/forums/showthread...ight=Wayne+DTM

Read/Look through the whole thing.

-C

I remember reading that thread when it was new. that car is very well built and i like it alot. other then the GM motor, lol.

Im not doing anything major. Im gonna do a 2.5lt motor, CF airbox, valve springs VAC shims. and either MS cams or shrick cams. i already have most of this stuff. i just have to get the motor put together. then while im racing the car i will look for an m60 4.0 block and crank. then ill build the bottom end with customs pistons. Short stroke, big bore for revs and a built top end. but this will take a while to build so in the mean time im gonna run what i have, the s14.

And i agree with what you guys are saying power level wise the s14 is not the cheapest way to go. but i dont like the way an m50 car drives VS an s14 car. The v8 is a shorter block like the s14 which is why the car will get a V8 after the s14.

BMW even ran the s14 in several e36 race cars because it was more then competive in the 92, 93 seasons

[Jonathan M3]

I remember reading that thread when it was new. that car is very well built and i like it alot. other then the GM motor, lol.

Im not doing anything major. Im gonna do a 2.5lt motor, CF airbox, valve springs VAC shims. and either MS cams or shrick cams. i already have most of this stuff. i just have to get the motor put together. then while im racing the car i will look for an m60 4.0 block and crank. then ill build the bottom end with customs pistons. Short stroke, big bore for revs and a built top end. but this will take a while to build so in the mean time im gonna run what i have, the s14.

And i agree with what you guys are saying power level wise the s14 is not the cheapest way to go. but i dont like the way an m50 car drives VS an s14 car. The v8 is a shorter block like the s14 which is why the car will get a V8 after the s14.

You're going about your engine choices back-asswards. If you want a temporary motor till the V8, drop in a budget stroked/cammed M20 and run it till the V8 is ready.

A V8 swapped car will not drive like an S14 car. Not to mention, M60/2 swaps are for ignorant roundel purists. You do realize that quad cam M60 is heavier, dimensionally larger, more expensive to build, and will be less powerful than the GM LSX small blocks, right?

If it were my track only car and I had the S14 lying around, I'd build it up and run that. They're extremely fun to flog and when built up, can move a stripped E30 very well. But its not my car, so whatever...

[///meric]

So when are you going to post up all the badass shit you've made?

this is what Brian is building

You're going about your engine choices back-asswards. If you want a temporary motor till the V8, drop in a budget stroked/cammed M20 and run it till the V8 is ready.

A V8 swapped car will not drive like an S14 car. Not to mention, M60/2 swaps are for ignorant roundel purists. You do realize that quad cam M60 is heavier, dimensionally larger, more expensive to build, and will be less powerful than the GM LSX small blocks, right?

If it were my track only car and I had the S14 lying around, I'd build it up and run that. They're extremely fun to flog and when built up, can move a stripped E30 very well. But its not my car, so whatever...

And thats what im going to do. drop in the s14. see where i am speed wise and then decide. a v8 is the motor i want to put in but that may change once i run the car with the s14.

Part of me wants to turbo the s14 which would be really easy to get power out of.

[TheStig]

10 bucks says this project will not be finished.

Matt, UNHCLL and Digitalwave pretty much summed up the quality of the project.

[Bill-B]

10 bucks says this project will not be finished.

Matt, UNHCLL and Digitalwave pretty much summed up the quality of the project.

Why so negative? It will never be done since he will always be doing more to it, but I am guessing that you are implying that it will never make it to a drivable stage. I would just like to know why you say this.:tsk:

[iflytii]

So when are you going to post up all the badass shit you've made?

this is what Brian is building

He said badass, not fatass...


I kid, I kid. We need more pictures! :D

[boom-monkey]

You're going about your engine choices back-asswards. If you want a temporary motor till the V8, drop in a budget stroked/cammed M20 and run it till the V8 is ready.

A V8 swapped car will not drive like an S14 car. Not to mention, M60/2 swaps are for ignorant roundel purists. You do realize that quad cam M60 is heavier, dimensionally larger, more expensive to build, and will be less powerful than the GM LSX small blocks, right?

I don't get why anyone would want a BMW V8 over these newer Chevy SB.

I will plead the 5th on the rest of the car.

[Turf1600]

lol @ this thread

[Gus]

S14 and enjoy the shit outta it. understand the 4cylinder thing...they are teh rule. not for everyone but they are good.

loving the passionate discussion guys. everyone sees the same stuff differently...makes the world go round.

[StreuB1]

He said badass, not fatass...


I kid, I kid. We need more pictures! :D

Drag Car Gallery http://www.e-owned.com/thumbnails.php?album=327

My Entire Gallery http://www.e-owned.com/index.php?cat=10057


I havent updated my gallery in a while. There is alot more done.


I love this one personally.

[Farbin Kaiber]

This pic makes me happy... To bad its not an e30.

[///meric]

Humm after doing some thinking. Im going to be building a nice s14 and it will be able to rev to 8500. In a year or two after the car is done i know im going to want more power, but since i jsut cant get myself to put a chevy V8 in an e30 m3 DTM replica. The most logical thing to do in my mind is boost the s14. its a perfict motor for boost. High RPM friendly, and the cylinderhead flows supurbly. Plus this way i can keep the weight done to a minimuim