Man wounds robber, then shoots him 5 more times, murder or self defense?

[kroberts]

Please don't turn this into a race issue... Don't tell me they weren't robbing a pharmacy with an old white guy behind a counter for no reason. They had to case the place and know what they're dealing with, right? Are you saying they wouldn't rob the place if pharmacist was black? If black pharmacist shot black teens (happens a lot)? This isn't a rhetorical situation, it happened, and perhaps lesson to be learned from it for the rest of snot-nosed punks who think they can point a weapon without consequences.

Ridiculous statements there.

I'm not talking about the crime, I'm talking about the punishment.

I'm saying that if a black pharmacist had shot a white, teenage P.O.S. robber once in the head, chased white kid #2 out of the store, then returned and finished off kid #1 with five more rounds, Mr. Pharmacist would not presently be out on $100k bail.

Look, it doesn't take a genius to realize that lower income minority males are responsible for a disproportionate amount of crime in our country's urban areas. However, you are in a serious state of denial if you think the criminal justice system in this country is color blind. I'm not a freaky liberal either.

You guys seriously think that it was OK for the old guy to "finish off" the robber? Seriously? Dont get me wrong, I'm not going to loose any sleep over the little fuckers either. Let me put it to you another way, Our soldiers in Iraq and A-stan are not allowed to execute wounded enemy combatants. What did the pharmacist do?

I'm not saying he deserves to be punished (luckily I dont have to make that call). Nor am I saying that the little bastard didn't deserve to get shot. I'm saying I think he went too far. I wouldn't expect him to render aid to the robber, but he didn't have to empty the pistol into him.

[brandon11130]

i want to say i would of put all six in the head, but honestly......i would want to see what happens when i shoot other parts, the head would get boring after 2 or 3 rounds.

[BDK]

The guys mistake was he walked away then returned to pump more shots into him...
If he had unloaded it in the first place, no problem but he walked away then returned...
The Coroner has already determined that the head shot was not the fatal shot, it was the additional rounds that killed him...
Don't jump me because of the facts and the law...
the first shot was in defense,
all the rest were additional after the fact, because the suspect was already incapacitated...manslaughter at the least...
color has nothing to do with it....
I have nothing to do with it but the law is very clear...
First shot he was in fear for his life...no problem
he then felt safe enough to walk away and then return..(no longer life threatening)
the next shots became the murder/manslaughter shots...
probably done out of anger not fear...
A fly on the wall might have heard something like this
"yeah, look at you now M*therF*cker, who is shooting who now?!!!"
This is clearly anger not fear...
Just because someone makes you mad doesn't give you the right to shoot them...

[jrhaile]

The guys mistake was he walked away then returned to pump more shots into him...
If he had unloaded it in the first place, no problem but he walked away then returned...
The Coroner has already determined that the head shot was not the fatal shot, it was the additional rounds that killed him...
Don't jump me because of the facts and the law...
the first shot was in defense,
all the rest were additional after the fact, because the suspect was already incapacitated...manslaughter at the least...
color has nothing to do with it....
I have nothing to do with it but the law is very clear...
First shot he was in fear for his life...no problem
he then felt safe enough to walk away and then return..(no longer life threatening)
the next shots became the murder/manslaughter shots...
probably done out of anger not fear...
A fly on the wall might have heard something like this
"yeah, look at you now M*therF*cker, who is shooting who now?!!!"
This is clearly anger not fear...
Just because someone makes you mad doesn't give you the right to shoot them...

And he should have RELOADED AND PUMPED 7 or 8 more into him.

[mrsleeve]

The guys mistake was he walked away then returned to pump more shots into him...
If he had unloaded it in the first place, no problem but he walked away then returned...
The Coroner has already determined that the head shot was not the fatal shot, it was the additional rounds that killed him...
Don't jump me because of the facts and the law...
the first shot was in defense,
all the rest were additional after the fact, because the suspect was already incapacitated...manslaughter at the least...
color has nothing to do with it....
I have nothing to do with it but the law is very clear...
First shot he was in fear for his life...no problem
he then felt safe enough to walk away and then return..(no longer life threatening)
the next shots became the murder/manslaughter shots...
probably done out of anger not fear...
A fly on the wall might have heard something like this
"yeah, look at you now M*therF*cker, who is shooting who now?!!!"
This is clearly anger not fear...
Just because someone makes you mad doesn't give you the right to shoot them...

Ok now that we have that cleared up.

Was the kid trying to recover his weapon, or reach for another one????? We have no way to determine that (unless more has come out on this I have lost track) if so that = treat and there for the subsequent shots justified and there for no prosecution. But if there was no threat then yes it looks very bad for him,.

[BDK]

actually this kid never had a gun, he was shot while trying to put on a ski mask.

So, was he trying to recover his ski mask, I don't know but I haven't seen a ski mask yet that I couldn't handle....

[z31maniac]

actually this kid never had a gun, he was shot while trying to put on a ski mask.

So, was he trying to recover his ski mask, I don't know but I haven't seen a ski mask yet that I couldn't handle....

True, but I don't think it's the victims job to wait around and see if the other robber is going to use lethal force as well.

[mrsleeve]

well the lawyerin was not fancy enough Poor bastard gets convicted


http://www.newson6.com/story/1483638...-being-in-hell

OKLAHOMA CITY -- An Oklahoma City pharmacist convicted of murder says being behind bars is like being in hell.

Jerome Ersland told The Oklahoman newspaper when he heard last week's guilty verdict, he knew he was doomed forever.

Ersland plans to appeal his first-degree murder conviction for shooting Antwun Parker during a 2009 pharmacy robbery.

Security video showed Ersland shooting Parker five more times after he was knocked unconscious from an original gunshot wound.

Parker's family is suing Ersland for wrongful death.

[Mullet Bullet]

Wow, just wow.

Over kill, yes. You shoot until they don't move, if the kid wasn't moving then the old guy was in the wrong. But to go get another gun and return I dunno, I can only say I wouldn't have done that.

[m73m95]

When the cops show up, you gotta make sure your side of the story is the only side they get to hear.

[Jean]

Only in America - 'Parker's family is suing Ersland for wrongful death'

[Joe G]

Reminds me of 'the stranger' by albert Camus.

[DatUtahGuy]

Taught him a lesson better than his mother EVER did. I bet that ski mask wearing kid doesn't try that shit again. Honestly, if you think you are hard you will eventually find someone who is harder and will pump you full of lead.

The pharmacy employee is just a product of his environment. How many times does someone have to put up with theft/crime before developing a mentality of "these fuckers deserve to die, and I hope they rot in hell"

Maybe there should be a law, 1st time you get robbed, you should ask the robber nicely to reconsider what he is doing, 2nd time you are allowed to pull out a bat and waive it around in a threatening manner(but not use it), 3rd time you should be allowed to shoot him and skin him in front of his wife and daughter while he's still alive.

But what the fuck do I know.

[joshh]

One less criminal=+1.

[devon.818]

the kid got what he deserved. i am a pro-gun person. you shoot to kill. the mans life was indangered. i will empty my clip into a human before they get close enough to take away my firearm. the person pointed a lethal weapon at this man, and he responded with deadly force to preserve his life. selfe defense. nuff said.

btw, if i were in the same situation, i would have shot the kid, then rapped him, then gutted him, rapped him again, then called for back up. in texas you can do that.