Most blasphemous words I have ever read...

[CHIF8008]

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[Wh33lhop]

Sounds like he is secure in his purchases.

[archie]

The guy likes Miatas, this must be his car?

Originally Posted by e36e46 View Post
I'm so sick of hearing the verbal diarrhea from e30 m3 owners. So they pull 195 hp out of a 4 cylinder engine and can go to 60 in around 7 seconds. The point is, that although their cars are more rare than latter m3 models, they perform worse in almost every objective performance category. 0-60, quarter mile, skidpad yadda yadda.

So their cars were 'groundbreaking' for the time and all that crap. Model T was groundbreaking for its time, but if a model T owner started putting down Ferraris or any car which spanks their own in so many categories, a good scoff would be in order. Likewise, all these geezers and M 'purists' who put down newer Ms because they aren't carbon copies of the original M3 are just grasping at straws because our newer Ms are empirically and thus objectively, far better cars.

"yes, but I can throw my e30 into corners." Awesome I can throw my e36 into corners too because it doesn't run on skinny wimpy little tires. Then I can accelerate out of those corners much faster and spank you down a straight without hearing the God-awful din of a tuned 4 cylinder car.

What are their criteria for claiming e30 superiority since it clearly is not set in empirical data? It's all this impossible to measure "driver experience" that I hear about. Well my driving experience in newer M cars is pretty friggin good too. Sour grapes because you e30ers are in the honda filled less-than-200 hp club. Except Hondas have bigger tires and nicer sounding 4 bangers.

e30s suck. If you want a great handling car that is underpowered get a miata for half the price. However if you want to hang with the big boys, get a modern contender so you don't have to put down our cars out of insecurity.

[StereoInstaller1]

Give me a car that looks like an E30 with something aside from semi-trailing arm rear and MacPhearson Strut front suspension!

Just simple double A arms up front would solve a lot of the E30s ills.

Eh, fuck it. I love my damn car. That guy is a douche.

[Eecen]

Who cares what some ass-hat thinks. The douche owner of the newer M3 wants to validate his purchase just as much as the douche E30 M3 owners want to validate theirs.

Fixed?

[F34R]

I don't care what anyone says, drove the new v8 M3. It has TONS of soul xD I am addicted to all that power! I just don't have the means to own one yet.

I do agree that the new M3s remove too much feel. Never drove an e30 M3, but after driving all M3s from 99+ I still feel more connection with my 325e. The lines of the body speak out and I get excited anew every time.

I have enough money into my current build to have bought a really nice e36 M3. No regrets!

[Be30mer]

I already posted in the thread a few days ago, no response from said douchenozzle.

I have a track prepped E36 M3, and used to have an E30 non-M. I'd sell mine in a heartbeat for an E30 M3, even if it's slower. I miss my E30, but love my E36.

The cars feel totally different, there's not much use in comparing them. The E36 handles better, stops better, accelerates better, yadda yadda, but because the limits of the car are so much higher than in the E30, it doesn't make you feel like a pro driver when you approach the limits like you do in the E30. The grin quotient is there, but it takes far higher silly stupid speeds to approach it. The E30 (I've never driven an M, just my old 325i) was stupid fun because its limits were so low that I could approach them far easier and safer and have more fun doing so.

I'd trade my m3 for an equal condition e30 m3 any day of the week as well. My 1984 318i (believe it or not) has superior feel and agility than my e46 m3. It may not be as quick, but just as much fun in the corners. e30 ftmfw. e46 is too goddamn heavy to be as much fun. My dream car ,amidst all the current ferrari's lamborghini's, and porsche's, is still an e30 m3 with an s85 v10, a back breaking suspension, massive brakes, and some fat, sticky tires.

[T Verdier]

Yeah a 3.2l making 240hp is nothing to brag about!

[Bimmerman325i]

^^ tell me what to say.

I already posted in the thread a few days ago, no response from said douchenozzle.

I have a track prepped E36 M3, and used to have an E30 non-M. I'd sell mine in a heartbeat for an E30 M3, even if it's slower. I miss my E30, but love my E36.

The cars feel totally different, there's not much use in comparing them. The E36 handles better, stops better, accelerates better, yadda yadda, but because the limits of the car are so much higher than in the E30, it doesn't make you feel like a pro driver when you approach the limits like you do in the E30. The grin quotient is there, but it takes far higher silly stupid speeds to approach it. The E30 (I've never driven an M, just my old 325i) was stupid fun because its limits were so low that I could approach them far easier and safer and have more fun doing so.

[Be30mer]

^^ tell me what to say.

[Dj Buttchug]

too bad i dont have an account over there. I would be banned soon after seeing this haha

[mr2peak]

If BMW hadn't found out how to make an ///M car faster in 30 years I would be very disappointed.

[freeride53]

funner.

[StereoInstaller1]

The main question would be if he has ever driven an E30 M3? If not he just wouldn't understand. I've driven late model M's (all but the E9x) and while they are faster, they just dont have the same fun quotient that you get with a raw E30 M3.

That would be the deeper truth, right?

E30s are FUN.

[RainierHooker]

The main question would be if he has ever driven an E30 M3? If not he just wouldn't understand.

I've driven late model M's (all but the E9x) and while they are faster, they just dont have the same fun quotient that you get with a raw E30 M3.

There is, and always will be, this belief that what ever car has the biggest statistics is the better car. Marketing executives have burned this notion into our brains. What does matter most though is the whole driving experience. IE how the car makes you feel. Stats do figure into this, but there is just more to it than just numbers. Just looking at an E30 M3 makes me 'feel' good, just imagine what happens when I'm behind the wheel of one. A nitro-dragster gets really good stats, but I wouldn't want to drive one down I-5.