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      Anyone using a Canon 17-40 F4L?
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        @Cook the photo of the cat is amazing. What a set up you have there!!
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          Originally posted by mrsleeve View Post
          friend of mine took this at work yesterday. I was too busy to get to it even though I really wanted to get this angle. Little farm at the top of a ridge in Northern WV at the end of a access road we are using. just thought I would share it anyway it came out great. Yes its a 3 layer HDR taken form a Tripod with a Nikon D80

          Its a cool pic, but not a real pic. Its been digitally enhanced. Its a conglomeration of 3 different pics, so the real image doesn't exist. Many people will say I'm nuts, but that is cheating. Get it right on the camera. Sure, it takes a little time with photoshop, but that doesn't mean anything. With photoshop, you can put a car on Uranus, and a dinosaur eating Mars. My point is, the image isn't real until its been doctored.

          Will
          '59 Alfa Romeo 101.02 Giulietta Sprint
          '69 Alfa Romeo 105.51 1750 GTV (R.I.P)
          '69 Datsun 2000 roadster Vintage race car
          '88 BMW M3

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            Originally posted by BlackbirdM3 View Post
            Its a cool pic, but not a real pic. Its been digitally enhanced. Its a conglomeration of 3 different pics, so the real image doesn't exist. Many people will say I'm nuts, but that is cheating. Get it right on the camera. Sure, it takes a little time with photoshop, but that doesn't mean anything. With photoshop, you can put a car on Uranus, and a dinosaur eating Mars. My point is, the image isn't real until its been doctored.

            Will
            UMMM well when you are using Photoshop to make up for piss poor exposures I tend to agree with you.

            BUT when you are using HDR to combine 3 identical images with the difference between them being shutter time you are getting a more true to life image to what your eye sees. Your eye can process about 10 stops of light between Highlight and shadow, a photograph digital or other wise can only capture 3-4 stops of light with a proper exposure. This is why you end up with highlights being blow out all to hell, and shadow areas underexposed to look just black. When you take 3 shots one each for the highlight middle and shadow, and combine them you get an image that is much closer to what the eye can see at an given time. No matter how "good" you are you could never have captured an image like this with a single image, the clear sky in the upper left would be a white blob, the hillside behind the barns would be a black spot, and everything in the shadows would indecipherable

            I dont use Photoshop by the way and this shot was not processed through PS either. That shot is about as true to life as it can get, it looks like you are standing right there, thats how it looked to the eye at the time when the photo was taken.
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            Originally posted by Fusion
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              Originally posted by richardb View Post
              @Cook the photo of the cat is amazing. What a set up you have there!!
              Cheers! Shame I can't get a nice shot of my cat

              Originally posted by richardb View Post
              Anyone using a Canon 17-40 F4L?
              I have one, but i rarely use it

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                Originally posted by richardb View Post
                Anyone using a Canon 17-40 F4L?
                Yep, I love mine. Such a good value.

                Originally posted by BlackbirdM3 View Post
                Its a cool pic, but not a real pic. Its been digitally enhanced. Its a conglomeration of 3 different pics, so the real image doesn't exist. Many people will say I'm nuts, but that is cheating. Get it right on the camera. Sure, it takes a little time with photoshop, but that doesn't mean anything. With photoshop, you can put a car on Uranus, and a dinosaur eating Mars. My point is, the image isn't real until its been doctored.

                Will
                In this day and age processing is as valuable, if not more valuable, than taking a good picture in the camera. To be a successful photographer today you need to take great pictures and be able to process them.

                If you don't ever intend to have a client and make money then throw that out the window and shoot however makes you happy. For me, processing is fun, and allows me to try at executing a vision I have in my mind when I take the shot.

                By the way, I'm not saying the above HDR is a particularly good example of this.
                Originally posted by z31maniac
                I just hate everyone.

                No need for discretion.

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                  *not my shot there

                  I had a cheapy kodak camera and was using photomatrix with a +1 -1 and 0 exposure.... I dont really know anything about hdr except that if you get too excited with it all the colors start to look somewhere between 'too real' or 'like your on mushrooms' kind of thing. It was amazing to me how a decent camera plus a little bit of digital 'help' could make almost anything look freaking amazing.

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                    Originally posted by 87e30 View Post
                    Yep, I love mine. Such a good value.



                    In this day and age processing is as valuable, if not more valuable, than taking a good picture in the camera. To be a successful photographer today you need to take great pictures and be able to process them.

                    If you don't ever intend to have a client and make money then throw that out the window and shoot however makes you happy. For me, processing is fun, and allows me to try at executing a vision I have in my mind when I take the shot.

                    By the way, I'm not saying the above HDR is a particularly good example of this.
                    Well, I've had at least 8 pictures published in the past 2 years. Not one of them was digitally altered or enhanced. Not bad for a no name guy who shoots pics. Oh yeah, a few of them have ended up in world wide distribution.

                    Will
                    '59 Alfa Romeo 101.02 Giulietta Sprint
                    '69 Alfa Romeo 105.51 1750 GTV (R.I.P)
                    '69 Datsun 2000 roadster Vintage race car
                    '88 BMW M3

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                      Originally posted by BlackbirdM3 View Post
                      Well, I've had at least 8 pictures published in the past 2 years. Not one of them was digitally altered or enhanced. Not bad for a no name guy who shoots pics. Oh yeah, a few of them have ended up in world wide distribution.

                      Will
                      Congrats - that's a lot more than I can say for myself. I guess I'm thinking more along the lines of commercial work like scott dukes, webb bland, sean klingelhoefer etc etc in the car arena. There are a lot of more "traditional" uses for photos that don't really want the processed look - I'll still argue that some processing can always be beneficial if done right.

                      <rant> I hate HDR ahh </rant>
                      Originally posted by z31maniac
                      I just hate everyone.

                      No need for discretion.

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                        I have an 18-135 on my 60D right now, looking to upgrade to the 17-40L. It fits my needs as far as focal length and price are concerned. The 24-70 F2.8 is nearly twice the price, can't afford that one. Another added bonus is it will be compatible when I eventually upgrade to the 5dII.

                        Can you post some shots or links to video of the 17-40?
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                          Mountain Parnitha near Athens in Greece.





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                            ^taken with 17-40L
                            Originally posted by z31maniac
                            I just hate everyone.

                            No need for discretion.

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                              Untitled by Auston Tkaczuk, on Flickr[/IMG]

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                                Originally posted by 87e30 View Post


                                ^taken with 17-40L
                                Rear tire looks wonky
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