Any Vegans on the board?

[chadthestampede]

I'm curious, what part of veganism causes the insufferable superiority complex?

[herbivor]

Laughing at the comments. My wife and I have been vegan for 20 years. My wife has her degree in health and nutrition. I wont debate this on a forum, but I just wanted to say that ill informed people with opinions make me laugh. Knowing almost nothing on a subject never seems to stop people from giving their two cents. Keep up the "people need to eat meat crap" cause its making my day.

btw...we have three kids (18, 17, 13) all of whom are very healthy.

^This. I always find it funny how sensitive people are to this subject, like it's religion or something. Just keep an open mind and continue to read and educate yourself. Haters gonna hate.
BTW, Good reads are "The China Study" by T. Colin Campbell and "Thrive" by vegan triathlete world champion Brendon Brazier.

[priapism]

Technically, we're omnivores. We evolved to eat pretty much anything. People in North Korea were mixing in grass and tree bark into their meager government rations to try to not starve to death during the great famine.

[2761377]

Nope, we have two sorta sharp teeth, and the rest of our mouth consists of flat, grinding teeth for plant consumption. Look at any carnivores jaw and teeth, no where close yo the same.

well that's not true. humans have two incisors per jaw, two cuspid or canines per jaw and four bicuspid or premolars per jaw. just six molars per jaw. you really should google human dentition before spouting crap to support your theory of humans as herbivores.

human evolution involved a relatively weak, unspecialized mammal making a place in the world by adaptability. hunting and meat eating were crucial in the development of early human physiology, societies and culture.

if you want to spurn animal protein that's fine. don't try to make as if veganism represents a return to a primitive human diet. it's just not true.


hth
robert w.

[Thizzelle]

First define good. Constant consumption of animal products promotes cardiovascular, digestive problems and promote many of the top killing cancers.

It wasn't until the industrialization of farms that poor and middle class people were able to afford meat on a daily basis but only after making it cheaper which also made it less nutritional and full of omega 6 fats (instead of omega 3). Our bodies are designed to consume meat when the harvest is short of what we need to survive but our bodies and brain operate best on a diet heavy in omega 3s found mainly in nuts and green cruciferous vegetables.

I'm a firm believer of karma. When you kill a living animal to consume it there is a trade off in the toll it takes on your body to digest it and its no surpise to me that over consumption usually results in heart disease & cancers.

That is why I chose to treat the consumption of meat / dairy as a delicacy. Its a better mimic of how our bodies are meant to process it. The difference in how I feel is night and day.

lulz

[Thizzelle]

Well fuck that's legit.

That's what I thought

[evandael]

i see your point. but i eat vegetables for the taste. meat isn't that great.

[squidmaster]

I didn't see this argument but I have heard before " humans have canine and sharp edged teeth, they were designed to cut" . How do people who refuse to eat meat or view it as a political issue feel about that statement.

Nope, we have two sorta sharp teeth, and the rest of our mouth consists of flat, grinding teeth for plant consumption. Look at any carnivores jaw and teeth, no where close yo the same.

[squidmaster]

What's your cook and prep time like? THats something i struggle with currently between school and work. I'm not interested in going full vegetarian/vegan, but i already don't usually eat red meat unless i'm out for dinner, and would like to cut cost/ increase veggie. Grain is easy.

Most meals I procure, from chopping to garnish take under 25-30 minutes. Sometimes I'll spend a few hours, but I'm very much into cooking... being a cook and all.

[Dermeister3]

VS.



I eat for meat for the taste. I could care less if I'd survive 1 extra year on this planet based on eating food i dont like. Id rather enjoy my food. btw i weigh 155 and I'm about 10% BF, I run everyday, participate in 5Ks, played soccer, lacrosse, swam competitively, and train at the gym 3-4 times a weak. so I dont see the need to change my diet away from animal products.

[e30e]

I didn't see this argument but I have heard before " humans have canine and sharp edged teeth, they were designed to cut" . How do people who refuse to eat meat or view it as a political issue feel about that statement.

[HarryPotter]

luls.

[RobertK]

I never said it's impossible to have a healthy diet without meat.
It's certainly possible to get your body's protein needs without meat. But it's more difficult and unnecessary to exclude it.
Why restrict yourself to only non-meat foods? You're missing out on a lot of good food and you're going to need to find other foods to get the protein from that you might not normally eat regularly. You're not going to be any healthier unless you had an unbalanced to begin with or were just eating way too much meat. If you're that concerned with your diet then just eat it in moderation, no good reason to completely exclude it.

First define good. Constant consumption of animal products promotes cardiovascular, digestive problems and promote many of the top killing cancers.

It wasn't until the industrialization of farms that poor and middle class people were able to afford meat on a daily basis but only after making it cheaper which also made it less nutritional and full of omega 6 fats (instead of omega 3). Our bodies are designed to consume meat when the harvest is short of what we need to survive but our bodies and brain operate best on a diet heavy in omega 3s found mainly in nuts and green cruciferous vegetables.

I'm a firm believer of karma. When you kill a living animal to consume it there is a trade off in the toll it takes on your body to digest it and its no surpise to me that over consumption usually results in heart disease & cancers.

That is why I chose to treat the consumption of meat / dairy as a delicacy. Its a better mimic of how our bodies are meant to process it. The difference in how I feel is night and day.

[z31maniac]

What's your cook and prep time like? THats something i struggle with currently between school and work. I'm not interested in going full vegetarian/vegan, but i already don't usually eat red meat unless i'm out for dinner, and would like to cut cost/ increase veggie. Grain is easy.

Depends on the meal. Some are easy, some take awhile.

Wife makes a 3 bean chili with chickpeas that is really awesome. But it's got a alot of prep work for all the chopping/crushing, etc. But it makes a huge batch. Makes about 10 servings. So we will split up the rest and have lunch for the rest of the week over some brown rice.

Another favorite is to buy a quinoa/brown rice mix, then grill some veggies (like onions/squash/bell peppers with a touch of olive oil), take them off the grill, bit of balsamic, done. Quick and easy.

This is why I own a fishing pole, .223 and a 12ga Nothing better than gutting/skinning and into the pan.

I've never been hunting or fishing in my life.

[mr ilia]

This is why I own a fishing pole, .223 and a 12ga Nothing better than gutting/skinning and into the pan.

I will add: fishing is a good way to bring proteins to your diet, it is a good work out and time well spent outdoors....of course you can always compensate this with by adding some beer/wine and fish cooking. :D