Any Vegans on the board?

[RobertK]

First tell me what part of that you *think* is false.

And? It's pointless.
My wife is almost a vegetarian. Because she doesn't like meat very much. Not for "health reasons". Those who go on those diets who think it's healthier are kidding themselves. Or the information they are reading is slanted.
So yes it's a fucking fad because it's not cultural. If they are doing it because of they culture that's entirely different but still pointless nutritionally.

Please explain.

[joshh]

If you're going to post false information like this.. at least back it up

First tell me what part of that you *think* is false.

[squidmaster]

You guys know that NaCl is sodium [chloride] (aka salk) right? The RDI is actually 2400mg. Even if you don't follow RDI because you're over 170lbs (or under), or because of the insane amount of variables in what amount of nutrients you should intake, you should still be getting around that number.

1 tablespoon is about 5 grams of table sale. table salt is about 40% sodium, therefore 1 tablespoon is 2 grams sodium.

[Mercury[BKM]]

this thread makes me want to eat a panda

[imsotyerred]

Serving size does matter - it relates to how much you actually eat. Kinda like the 20oz soda that contains 2.5 servings, and the 12oz can that contains one. WTF?

Speaking of RDA, find me someone that actually "needs" 2000mg of NaCl per day - that much on a regular day would give me serious hypertension; and I'd bet good money that the average person gets way more than 2g/day.

100% RDA of vitamin C is 60mg, which is enough to prevent scurvy. 20x that amount won't cause you any problems, and in the case of C, is arguably better for you than 60mg. My point is those numbers aren't all that useful.

nope 2000mg/day is quite a bit...something like a tablespoon-full

RDA values are just not great to go by...people are too different in their needs, body sizes, activity levels, etc. Food labels are really only useful for comparing 2 products to each other.

There haven't been many conclusive clinical studies concerning megadoses of vitamins so it's really hard to say whether such a supplementation practice is useful or safe. FYI zinc has a greater impact on reducing cold symptoms and hastening recovery than popping lots of vitamin C. In general, extra Vitamin supplementation does not affect your health and wellbeing unless you have a deficiency

[u3b3rg33k]

... so like, oh, okay, no matter what grams of meat I am talking about, it's 50% more on that-- it's no longer irrelevant, instead it's relative.

That's my point. it is relative; just make sure it's not your relative - that's cannibalism.

[drumad]

there's more to it than carbs vs fat
wheat products, along with dairy products are inflammatory in your system

True. I'd much rather upvote your post but this isnt designed for that.

[squidmaster]

Serving size does matter - it relates to how much you actually eat. Kinda like the 20oz soda that contains 2.5 servings, and the 12oz can that contains one. WTF?

Speaking of RDA, find me someone that actually "needs" 2000mg of NaCl per day - that much on a regular day would give me serious hypertension; and I'd bet good money that the average person gets way more than 2g/day.

100% RDA of vitamin C is 60mg, which is enough to prevent scurvy. 20x that amount won't cause you any problems, and in the case of C, is arguably better for you than 60mg. My point is those numbers aren't all that useful.

dude 25% of 100 is 25. 25% of 200 is 50. If I just told you grams, it wouldn't make sense. as in, "oh 25grams more than meat!" like, 25 grams more than what number? It's irrelevant. it's "50% more than meat" so like, oh, okay, no matter what grams of meat I am talking about, it's 50% more on that-- it's no longer irrelevant, instead it's relative.

the dv thing I only mentioned once (it's 219% recommended, but I mean take that as it is. it's 28.5mg per 100g), the % I was talking about were xx% more than spinach, or xx% more than beef flank etc.

[u3b3rg33k]

Percentages are ratios though, it doesn't matter the serving size

The iron is 219%dv per 100mg, so it should be handled respectively.

Serving size does matter - it relates to how much you actually eat. Kinda like the 20oz soda that contains 2.5 servings, and the 12oz can that contains one. WTF?

Speaking of RDA, find me someone that actually "needs" 2000mg of NaCl per day - that much on a regular day would give me serious hypertension; and I'd bet good money that the average person gets way more than 2g/day.

100% RDA of vitamin C is 60mg, which is enough to prevent scurvy. 20x that amount won't cause you any problems, and in the case of C, is arguably better for you than 60mg. My point is those numbers aren't all that useful.

[RobertK]

You mean yours?

If you can't provide anything insightful to the thread please go troll somewhere else.

[HarryPotter]

lmao oh lawd it's so good because it is so true.

[squidmaster]

Percentages are ratios though, it doesn't matter the serving size

The iron is 219%dv per 100mg, so it should be handled respectively.

[OniKyan]

Love the bullshit comments with no real source of research or information.

You mean yours?

[RobertK]

Most men get/have more iron than they should, especially if you eat red meat. The only way you can "fix" that is to donate blood (or cut yourself, but I'd recommend the former).

True, men should be careful especially with iron supplements. Too much can actually overload your liver.

[u3b3rg33k]

Anyone tried spirulina supplements? 57.47 g protein per 100 g serving. I drink a few drinks that contain it, but never actually tried the supplement (I think you can get it in powder form as well for mixing).

"Spirulina contains 334% more protein than beef, 475% more calcium than whole milk, 5756% more iron than spinach, and is a rich source of B-complex vitamins, containing 118% more B12 than raw beef liver."

It's also a complete protein.

Most men get/have more iron than they should, especially if you eat red meat. The only way you can "fix" that is to donate blood (or cut yourself, but I'd recommend the former).

The complete protein argument is silly. Your body doesn't take beef and strategically place tiny parts of it in your muscles. it breaks it down into molecules and re-assembles it in whatever form it can/needs. are your percentages per serving? by volume? by mass? by hundredweight? by smoot?