OFFICIAL Land Rover thread.

[Ryan...]

In a review of the $132,000, 575hp RR Sport SVR..........

"After a fair bit of driving, it seems pretty clear that the main value proposition of this Strange Rover is “object to advertise your disposable income” that happens to double as transportation."

To me it's pointless.

1 year ago I would have said it was pointless to have any SUV with over 250bhp, because after all they're basically just for picking up groceries or getting out of snow covered driveways.

People could make the exact same argument against any Platinum F150 or F250, because I can almost guarantee 90% of them never haul anything larger than a Uhaul 10' trailer, yet cost $70k +.

After owning and daily driving a 400hp supercharged RRS, and having driven the newer 500hp RRS, I can absolutely understand why people pay a premium for high horsepower SUVs.

IMO, a Range Rover Sport is the *best* all around vehicle a person can own. Power, luxury, status (let's be real, who doesn't want a nice vehicle that others fawn over?), and fantastic looks all rolled into one.

[LateFan]

In a review of the $132,000, 575hp RR Sport SVR..........

"After a fair bit of driving, it seems pretty clear that the main value proposition of this Strange Rover is “object to advertise your disposable income” that happens to double as transportation."

To me it's pointless.

[Ryan...]

Love the feedback on the lr3 vs RRS. I have been green lit by the wife to buy what I like on my next decent commission check...

Her being English and all helps get the nod of approval (I have 4 cars and 3 motorcycles already), and I think the plan will be to buy whatever I can get the best quality for the price with a jag powerplant. I'm fine adding Johnson lift rods, even to a full size RR, in order to get decent tires if I have to.

Remember, even if you have Johnson Lift rods, if an EAS component fails and drops you to the bump stops with larger tires, you won't be able to move at all because the tires will be jammed up in the wheel well.

Lucky 8 has larger bump stops for such moments so I would absolutely look into that if you go the Johnson Rod + larger tire route.

[LateFan]

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[haaken675]

Love the feedback on the lr3 vs RRS. I have been green lit by the wife to buy what I like on my next decent commission check...

Her being English and all helps get the nod of approval (I have 4 cars and 3 motorcycles already), and I think the plan will be to buy whatever I can get the best quality for the price with a jag powerplant. I'm fine adding Johnson lift rods, even to a full size RR, in order to get decent tires if I have to.

[acolella76]

I had a Disco 2 for a while

I bought it knowing the head gaskets had already been done, which at this point most Discos that are currently running have probably had the gaskets done or they would be completely and obviously blown by now. The late models with the 4.6L also had issues of dropping cylinder liners but that is also one of those things that if it hasn't happened by now, it's probably never going to happen...

The u-joints in the rear driveshaft are also a common point of failure but a rebuilt driveshaft can be had in the $250-300 range or you can replace them yourself for way cheaper.

Also the only DIIs that have a center locking diff are the '99 into late 2000, and the '03-'04. The late models already have the linkage and require no mods but the early models need the linkage from either a D1 or a late model DII.

They're awesome trucks, mine ran like a champ until a girl cut me off on the highway and totaled it. Just a small amount of bent sheet metal but it doesn't take much to total a $2500 disco...

[mrsleeve]

I researched them at one point as a potential purchase. 90% of them seem to have head gasket issues, so you're either lucky enough to be in the 10% or you become intimately knowledgeable with the V8.

I think '04 had the center locking diff and a few other upgrades like xenon headlights that made it more desirable than the earlier models.

Personally, if I was to buy a reasonably priced Rover I think I'd go LR3, good mixture of creature comforts and off-road capability while not costing tons of money.

also IIRC all the DII's had the Center Diff lock but didnt have the cable to actuate it until 04, and you could retrofit the lever from a Disco to make it work with a little creative work.

I agree if you must go older Rover, a LR3 would be where I would be looking.

[mbonder]

I researched them at one point as a potential purchase. 90% of them seem to have head gasket issues, so you're either lucky enough to be in the 10% or you become intimately knowledgeable with the V8.

I think '04 had the center locking diff and a few other upgrades like xenon headlights that made it more desirable than the earlier models.

Personally, if I was to buy a reasonably priced Rover I think I'd go LR3, good mixture of creature comforts and off-road capability while not costing tons of money.

[mrsleeve]

From what I remember the 04s are the only dII worth buying as they had the oil pick up fixed by then.

[Ryan...]

Who here has a Disco 2?

I'm fighting with the idea of picking one up in the sub-$4k price range, winch bumper, small lift, then just sending it.

However, forum chatter and general knowledge of constant engine issues has me very wary of picking one up.

[BlackSpeed66]

The P38 keeps on truckin’ through these frigid days :D:D

It’s comfy inside!

[Rob]

Same car just way way more posh. I think they decided they needed to sell these in the suburbs and dolled them up.

I like the sort of no-nonsense-ness of the LR3. It has a simple functional interior, very comfortable, and I like the lights / grille / black fender arches/ etc a lot more.

That's what I figured. BiL's is awesome, and it is pretty quick going from gas station to gas station :p

IMHO, the newer the rover, the less I like them aesthetically. The disco boxiness is awesome. Newer ones (no offense to anyone) look like Explorers. Or is it vice versa?

[LateFan]

Good info! How about the LR4?

Same car just way way more posh. I think they decided they needed to sell these in the suburbs and dolled them up.

I like the sort of no-nonsense-ness of the LR3. It has a simple functional interior, very comfortable, and I like the lights / grille / black fender arches/ etc a lot more.

[Ryan...]

LR3 is basically the RRS like mine.

RRS is most definitely geared towards street performance from the factory. Tire options are very limited due to the Brembo brakes (minimum 19" wheels), and the OEM size is trash. I fit 265/50/20 terra grapplers without any issue, but that's as big as you can go without modifying the EAS to lift it (via Johnson Rides or IID tool), or converting to a lifted coil conversion.

[Rob]

I'm pretty biased to the LR3. I think the later Jaguar drivetrain is more reliable, has great torque, and can climb at silly angles with no oiling issues or cooling problems.

The RR Sport and the LR3 are the same car, so I assume the capabilities would be the same - unless the Sport is aimed more at street performance and settings. I know they come stock with some silly wheel and tire combos for anything but street use. The other thing would be to compare the approach and departure angles and how much overhang.

An LR3 can lift itself way up for clearance, and if high centered it will lift another inch temporarily. It has pretty heavy duty steel skid plates underneath. Ours has the locking rear diff option.

Wiki on the Jaguar engine:
A naturally aspirated 4.4-litre variant produces 300 hp (220 kW) and 425 N⋅m (313 lb⋅ft) and has been adapted by Land Rover with a slightly greater capacity and increased torque. Both petrol engines have been designed with a sump and oil pick-up system to allow for operation at extreme angles.

Good info! How about the LR4? My BiL has one ('13 I think?)