Let's talk about work place ethics I.E Time clock fraud

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  • mrsleeve
    I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
    • Mar 2005
    • 16385

    #31
    Is his kids baby mommy the daughter of one of the higher ups in this outfit you work for....
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    • jalopi
      Banned
      • Aug 2010
      • 2370

      #32
      Originally posted by mrsleeve
      Is his kids baby mommy the daughter of one of the higher ups in this outfit you work for....
      lol probably



      also, OP, sounds like the kinda company that if they weren't financially doing well and had to close shop, would drop the news on all the employees the day of closing. surprise!

      making a wise decision to git out while you're ahead of the game

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      • nando
        Moderator
        • Nov 2003
        • 34827

        #33
        I did something similar back when I worked graveyard shift cleaning shitters at the local grocery store.

        my "boss" and another co-worker would leave the store at about 3am every day (shift ended at 7:30). They didn't clock out, they just left - because there was a form you could fill out if you forgot your time card or something. Well, he and his buddy would just fill out this form saying they were there until 7:30 and then he would sign it.

        I probably wouldn't have cared much (the custodial arts are not really a career you'd want to stay in) but they were leaving me with all of the work. I reported them and security ran the tapes and of course they could see those idiots leave through the employee door. They were promptly fired.

        I would probably leave in your situation or just demand that they pay you an extra $10k since that guy effectively got a raise.
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        • matthugie
          E30 Mastermind
          • Mar 2004
          • 1810

          #34
          I had a similar situation at a former place of employment. We had excess material that we collected at each branch that would be taken to be recycled every two weeks. One of the branch managers was found to have made an arrangement where the check from the recycle company was made out to him personally rather than the company. This guy was also one of the company's first employees, and amusingly shared a church connection with the owners. I was surprised, but they did make the hard (and correct) call of firing him.

          That said, it's definitely time to bail. Loyalty to your employees is good to an extent, but if management will allow someone to steal from them then you're on a sinking ship. It'll probably trundle along as it is for a while, but it's never going to improve until the owners start treating it like a business.
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          • Stanley Rockafella
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            • Aug 2011
            • 4056

            #35
            Originally posted by Nick_S
            Despite your massively condescending tone, I do agree with the gist of your post. I'm 29 and have been managing warehouses for the last 6 years and had a fortunate run at pretty much only have jobs at companies who valued integrity and honesty so I suppose it's a bit naive to think that something like this should be left alone since it's not my business. However, since the issue had been brought to my attention by our accounting/payroll person sometime ago, and since numerous others feel this guy is massively under qualified, I felt it needed to be brought up. However, all it's done is show myself and some others the priorities of the company so I suppose the silver lining is finding out now rather than later. I'd already been considering looking else where and this has solidified that.
            I'm sorry Pumpkin. I'll try to be more sensitive to your feelings in the future

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            • ST1G
              R3V OG
              • Oct 2012
              • 6689

              #36
              Originally posted by Nick_S
              It's a small company and this guy was their first employee who has deep roots with the presidents family. After being here 8 months there is alot of questionable activities that go on. Our accountant had questioned the legitimacy of his hours to me before, she's brought it up to management and they basically tell her take care of her own business. After bringing up issue with the owners a few times I have just stopped until this happened...but at this point I'm over it. I promise this story isn't BS however I'm not going to post photo's or company emails on here...just yet. This place is f-ed.
              I was pointing out that this is not a company I'd want to work for if there is nepotism that deep. It's not a hard story to believe. I'm not looking for proof of it's validity.

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              • Nick_S
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                • Apr 2011
                • 3656

                #37
                Originally posted by Stanley Rockafella
                I'm sorry Pumpkin. I'll try to be more sensitive to your feelings in the future

                we still friends?
                I have very sensitive feels.
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                • F34R
                  sLaughter
                  • May 2009
                  • 12390

                  #38
                  I worked at a trucking warehouse for the summer and ran into the SAME THING, the guy would just walk around and do ZERO work. He was lower end management but friends with the owners etc. He clocked in ate lunch and sat around all day.

                  We also brought in snacks for fellow workers to share every other day and on a Monday I got a dozen donuts to break in my welcome with the fellow workers and the shit head ate 5 of them; walked right up ate one then grabbed two and walked off, he came back about an hr later and grabbed another two. So yeah, I feel you on slacking lazy management. I left after 1.5 months to go back to my father's construction company...at least I am the foreman there and we pride our self on hard work and gorgeous finished details.

                  In light of what you mentioned about catching him stealing well over 10k worth of hours, management is being held by the balls. Walk out and do it in a peaceful manner since you might want a reference?
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                  • Stanley Rockafella
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                    • Aug 2011
                    • 4056

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Nick_S
                    I have very sensitive feels.
                    ...mee too :'(

                    *sniff*

                    hugz?
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                    • delatlanta1281
                      Dart Master
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 10317

                      #40
                      They must reprimand an employee first, then put them on a corrective path. Verbal warning, written warning, then termination. That's how it's always worked within my corp.
                      just my experience... Yeah, it's wrong, but such is life. Suck it up and realize you can only control what you can control. More have worked for less, and many cannot find work.
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                      • G FORCE
                        Advanced Member
                        • Mar 2014
                        • 157

                        #41
                        Thank god we operate on a salary basis. In any case, I'd say if he is a "manager" and you are not then you are committing organizational suicide by bypassing escalation protocols. This is proven by your point about him getting a slap on the wrist for a very sever offense, similar to what you got for a "petty" mishap in time-clock management. Get out. This is not worth your time and you are not going to get anywhere; the writing is on the wall.
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                        • YosemiteSam
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                          • Apr 2011
                          • 1303

                          #42
                          So I work in a bike shop up here in Campbell, and we switched over to a new brand for our beach cruiser bikes a while back. The first shipment took AGES to get here, and the company doesn't ever seem to get any shipments to us in a timely manner. Might you work for this company OP?
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                          • flyboyx
                            R3V OG
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 8371

                            #43
                            Originally posted by jalopi
                            something tells me that scuzzbutt is friends with someone in upper management or on the executive level... or went to school with them or something. that's the only explanation i can think of.

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                            Originally posted by eur04lif3
                            Yeah, sounds like hes sucking someones dick for sure, and you are just getting a bullshit run around the political game.

                            If I were you, i'd look elsewhere. That's one of the down sides to a small mom-n-pop companies.
                            god dammit! you took the wind out of my sails with this one.
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                            • Dozyproductions
                              R3V Elite
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 4682

                              #44
                              Originally posted by YosemiteSam
                              So I work in a bike shop up here in Campbell, and we switched over to a new brand for our beach cruiser bikes a while back. The first shipment took AGES to get here, and the company doesn't ever seem to get any shipments to us in a timely manner. Might you work for this company OP?
                              Please let this be a thing. I like Nando's idea. This guy is getting a free raise, ask for yours or if not, leave immediately.

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                              • Exodus_2pt0
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                                • Dec 2011
                                • 5943

                                #45
                                Didn't you move across country for this job? Or am I confused.

                                If so, that kind of sucks big balls, but I imagine in your area there are tons of opportunities.
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