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  • 2mAn
    Señior Mod
    • Aug 2010
    • 20217

    #31
    Ask him if he has a Buick 215ci laying around or parts for one!? lol
    Simon
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    • LateFan
      R3V Elite
      • May 2013
      • 4399

      #32
      Originally posted by 2mAn
      Anyone have experience with the Buick Aluminum 215ci V8? Good resources to read up on or find parts, etc?
      It's a sweet little engine. All aluminum. It would have been developed further but the era of cheap power and big blocks was starting and they didn't need it. GM sold the design to Rover and it got absorbed into the whole British Leyland era.

      In Europe, it became their "small block," used for all kinds of things, Range Rovers, Defenders, drag cars, home-built hillclimb cars...

      The MGB-V8 Sebring race cars, lots of things.

      It's assumed it's the same one in the Triumph Stag, but that one is actually two 4 cyl. Leyland engines made into a V8. It had design issues and crankshaft oil passage issues and they burned up, adding to the British reliability image.

      When I was a teenager, the father-son mechanics down the alley bought a blown Stag, swapped the Buick 215 version with a Rochester 4bbl, and that thing ran!

      I don't know, but I'll bet there are US suppliers that still support it. I think there are some in the UK for the Rover version (different heads I think).

      Oh, found this...
      Anyone use a Buick 215 V8 on a project car or hot rodded the motor? I never seen them on any custom cars.


      D&D Fabrications is the Aluminum V8 Specialists Worldwide. Featuring Buick & Olds 215 CI and Rover 3.5, 3.9, 4.0, 4.2 and 4.6 liter engines.

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      • LateFan
        R3V Elite
        • May 2013
        • 4399

        #33
        http://www.v8buick.com/index.php

        wikiman say:

        Buick produced 376,799 cars with this engine in just three years. A comparable number of Oldsmobile 215 engines were produced. In addition, some Pontiac models were fitted with the Buick 215, leading to the nickname "BOP 215" for the engine (BOP standing for Buick/Oldsmobile/Pontiac). The aluminium engine was relatively expensive to produce, however, and it suffered problems with oil and coolant sealing, as well as with radiator clogging from use of antifreeze incompatible with aluminium. As a result, GM ceased production of the all-aluminium engine after 1963, although Buick retained a similar 300 cu in (4.9 L) engine (iron block and alloy heads) (1964–1980), as well as a V6 derivative (1962–2008) which proved to have a very long and successful life.

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        • 2mAn
          Señior Mod
          • Aug 2010
          • 20217

          #34
          Muscle Car thread

          Originally posted by LateFan
          It's a sweet little engine. All aluminum. It would have been developed further but the era of cheap power and big blocks was starting and they didn't need it. GM sold the design to Rover and it got absorbed into the whole British Leyland era.



          In Europe, it became their "small block," used for all kinds of things, Range Rovers, Defenders, drag cars, home-built hillclimb cars...



          The MGB-V8 Sebring race cars, lots of things.



          It's assumed it's the same one in the Triumph Stag, but that one is actually two 4 cyl. Leyland engines made into a V8. It had design issues and crankshaft oil passage issues and they burned up, adding to the British reliability image.



          When I was a teenager, the father-son mechanics down the alley bought a blown Stag, swapped the Buick 215 version with a Rochester 4bbl, and that thing ran!



          I don't know, but I'll bet there are US suppliers that still support it. I think there are some in the UK for the Rover version (different heads I think).



          Oh, found this...

          Anyone use a Buick 215 V8 on a project car or hot rodded the motor? I never seen them on any custom cars.




          http://www.aluminumv8.com


          haha I read the HAMB thread last night and uncovered that same aluminumv8.com site...

          Add this to the reading about the motor:

          https://www.hemmings.com/blog/articl...215-cu-in-v-8/


          Originally posted by LateFan
          http://www.v8buick.com/index.php



          wikiman say:



          Buick produced 376,799 cars with this engine in just three years. A comparable number of Oldsmobile 215 engines were produced. In addition, some Pontiac models were fitted with the Buick 215, leading to the nickname "BOP 215" for the engine (BOP standing for Buick/Oldsmobile/Pontiac). The aluminium engine was relatively expensive to produce, however, and it suffered problems with oil and coolant sealing, as well as with radiator clogging from use of antifreeze incompatible with aluminium. As a result, GM ceased production of the all-aluminium engine after 1963, although Buick retained a similar 300 cu in (4.9 L) engine (iron block and alloy heads) (1964–1980), as well as a V6 derivative (1962–2008) which proved to have a very long and successful life.


          I found a pretty cool modified one and Im SUPER tempted to pull the trigger... but it wont be for the E30 or the Datsun...



          also this:







          This... was a super cool racer to see .
          Simon
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          • JasonC
            Site Manager
            • Aug 2006
            • 14451

            #35
            I was going to suggest H.A.M.B. but see it's been brought up. I think that there are some Corvair guys that put those engines in the back of their Corvair. So maybe a search on that swap in a Corvair could bring up some leads.

            1992 BMW 325iC
            1978 Chevrolet Monte Carlo
            1965 Chevrolet Corvair Monza 140hp

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            • varg
              No R3VLimiter
              • May 2014
              • 3310

              #36
              It's a shame they're so uncommon and lacking in aftermarket support in the US, they'd be a good candidate for V8 swapped E30s.

              IG @turbovarg
              '91 318is, M20 turbo
              [CoTM: 4-18]
              '94 525iT slicktop, M50B30 + S362SX-E, 600WHP DD or bust
              '93 RX-7 FD3S

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              • 2mAn
                Señior Mod
                • Aug 2010
                • 20217

                #37
                Originally posted by varg
                It's a shame they're so uncommon and lacking in aftermarket support in the US, they'd be a good candidate for V8 swapped E30s.
                Its a V8, theres stuff out there.

                Im trying to determine if the later Rover Intake Manifolds bolt up to the older heads. Havent found much yet, but Im still looking
                Simon
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                -1986 German Car
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                • iansane
                  E30 Fanatic
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 1342

                  #38
                  Originally posted by johnt325ix
                  15 years ago I bought my '88 ix as a beater so I could afford my muscle car, '70 'Cuda 440 Six Barrel 4 speed. Within a few months I realized that an E30 is way more than a beater and now enjoy the both.
                  I had the same thing happen to me. I'm originally a trans am guy and bought the e30 as a cheap daily while I finished the turbo install on my TA and just sort of fell for e30s. It's just like my TA, but better. :)

                  Originally posted by 2mAn
                  Its a V8, theres stuff out there.

                  Im trying to determine if the later Rover Intake Manifolds bolt up to the older heads. Havent found much yet, but Im still looking
                  Easiest way to find out, buy it and try it!
                  84 325e - 91 325i - 92 318 touring - 91 Trans Am - 01 S4 avant - 03 S-type R - 96 F350 - 15 SS - 84 Biturbo - 91 Defender

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                  • 88 ragtop
                    Mod Crazy
                    • Jul 2017
                    • 769

                    #39
                    My 1970 SS 454 LS-6 Chevelle

                    Hey Guys


                    Its amazing that you should ask this question. I went from having big block Chevelle's all of my life. (I'm 53 now) My first car in high school (1981) was a 1969 Chevelle SS396 with a 454 in it. That car was lost unfortunately, I had it in storage and got to where I couldn't pay the bill when I was about 20. I have had over 30 SS Chevelle's since then and in 1995 a 1970 SS 454 LS-6 (with build sheet) fell into my lap for $3,500. I spent the next 25 years meticulously restoring it with 95 percent NOS parts. I sold it three years ago, just too much of a burden, too nice to drive, still has 11:1 compression(requiring 110 Sunoco gas to drive) I don't so much miss owning it as I do driving it, at 530 HP with the M22 Rock crusher and 3:73 gears, this thing sounded unreal at 6,500(was chassis dyno tuned -Stock only mods being large tube headers and a full flow master American Thunder system) My god was this car fun to drive, I taught both my kids to drive stick in this car and seriously, no joke there was not to many cars that could keep up with me on the freeway at the time(of course if I still had it, I bet a Dodge Demon would walk all over me) my son is the one that infected me with the BMW sickness. I will try to figure out how to post pics of it.
                    Last edited by 88 ragtop; 06-19-2019, 12:05 PM.

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                    • 88 ragtop
                      Mod Crazy
                      • Jul 2017
                      • 769

                      #40
                      4.0 buick/disco engine

                      my wife owns a 2001 Disco two as well (we have had it since 2003) and have some extra engine stuff and know a little bit about the engines in them as I HAVE to keep my wife's up to snuff and replaced the motor and heads enough time to be fairly proficient with them, not sure about the older heads bolting up to the newer plenums, but I know someone that can tell me.

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                      • 88 ragtop
                        Mod Crazy
                        • Jul 2017
                        • 769

                        #41
                        4.0 buick/disco engine

                        If you do wind up using the alum block with the heads, originally they use a stretch style head bolt( not torqued) and are only good once. after doing enough head replacements on ours (5 times) go to a ARP head stud head and you will be money ahead, then you can torque them instead.

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                        • Melon
                          E30 Fanatic
                          • Mar 2018
                          • 1311

                          #42
                          I've mentioned it before, but this is the place to go into detail.

                          This is the 'other woman'

                          2002 Corvette Coupe
                          SB2 Package (Sport seats, HUD)







                          The term Poorvette came about when a friend of mine was joking about how much car you get for the money. It's the poor man's super car, the Poorvette



                          It's relatively stock.

                          Borla stinger exhaust, 160 degree thermostat with 190 degree fan setting.

                          I did have the differential rebuilt with 4.10 gears, and installed a Monster LT1-S twin disc clutch and a light weight flywheel.









                          I do things.

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                          • Joe G
                            R3VLimited
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 2942

                            #43
                            My dad’s 59 vette. He has owned it for around 40 years. Always been a driver. It was even his DD in the early 80s when he lived in NYC (and street parked it).

                            We drove from Long Island to Corvette Carlisle in PA every August for nearly 10 years. Good times.




                            Current Car: 2011 BMW 135i, M-Sport, 6 speed

                            Originally posted by lambo
                            Sounds like you need a massage.
                            Originally posted by kpeng
                            Who the hell is Vlad?

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                            • LateFan
                              R3V Elite
                              • May 2013
                              • 4399

                              #44
                              ^^ good story. Way to go, dad! Did those have the 283?

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                              • Joe G
                                R3VLimited
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 2942

                                #45
                                Thanks. And yup, 283 - car was originally a dual carb car, but keeping it running well with that setup was always a hassle, so it’s run a single carb as long as I can remember. We still have the dual setup though. Also have a mint hardtop, looks super badass with that on and no hub caps.


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                                Current Car: 2011 BMW 135i, M-Sport, 6 speed

                                Originally posted by lambo
                                Sounds like you need a massage.
                                Originally posted by kpeng
                                Who the hell is Vlad?

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