Global Warming: What do you think? What do you know?

[delfin]

summing someone up based on a few principles shows that you are quick to judge and very limited in your ability to understand people. i.e. closeminded

you have no cognitive ability to think people can make a difference or influence others without laws or regulation. you think that also anyone who would do something would go directly to legislation as the best idea. far from it, a lot know it's inefficient.

when you type that you are so much against change, it makes you seem like a stubborn american "back-woods man" who hates government.

NO ONE has said that they are against change. They are just telling you that your stupid forms of change are extreme, uncalled for, and ignorant.

[uofom3]

How is he a close-minded hick? This is because he is correct? Oh that is right, I am one of those bitter Americans who clings to my gun and relgion.

thank you trent.

[uofom3]

NO ONE has said that they are against change. They are just telling you that your stupid forms of change are extreme, uncalled for, and ignorant.

I'd say arrogant more than ignorant.

Bobby - you've bought full-fledged into this idea that human beings are killing the planet. Fine. I'm just not sure what you base this on. I've got a second-hand handle on your background, clubs you are associated with, etc. I find it hard to believe that you are going to take this stance so fervantly. I know you're not stupid in the least, that's why I'm having a hard time with this.

If you are saying simply that the American population should be more conscious about how it discards it's waste and how much it consumes I am completely with you; if for nothing other than the economic ramifications of wasteful spending and consuming. However, you are preaching to people how they SHOULD behave, and if they are a descenting voice they are "ignorant hicks". You sound like Obama.

I'm just as guilty as being a strong personality as you are, and I'm not going to deny that. But there becomes a point when you say, "hey, people are going to make their own choices" and this is one of those points. I strongly encourage people to spend less, be more conscious of how they spend money, etc. All of this is good for them, and good for society. However, your communist dribble is COMPLETELY against your economic background and your logical reasoning that you have positioned in the past.

I think that you sound like an elitist. You know what is best FOR ME... and I believe that no one cares about my best interest more than I do. The LAST THING i want is some individual (conservative or liberal) suggesting what is truly best for me and my life. Our country is based on providing as much freedom as possible whilst still retaining order. Liberals are trying to take that away, and it looks as though you are drinking the Kool-aid in a major way.

[uofom3]

No I think every form of government today is bad, but "progressive" liberals have no right to brainwash people into believing a huge conspiracy such as global warming.

Truth.

[rwh11385]

I am not quick to judge, I have a problem with stupidity, which between this a the E85 thing you have show in spades.


When did I say people could not make a difference???????????????????

I do my part, I fix shit that I can rather than throw away, I recycle my cans, bottles and all the scrap metals I can. I am again all for a better energy source that but not due to the GW craze.

No cognitive ability??????? You sir have no clue, look where shit is going there are all kinds of laws all over world being enacted because of this fear mongering, all with no difinitive proof that we as a population have anything to do with it. I am sorry you seem like a very smart guy but you bought the propaganda hook line and sinker. If this was 1930's germany you would be 1st in line to invade poland.

nothing to panic about is right, there is not a dammed thing we can do about the sun and our distance form it.

sorry, i mention neighbors getting neighbors to recycle and you freak the fuck out and say fuck the government.

propaganda? seeing other nations recycle, reuse better than the USA be propaganda? after Ted says we aren't worse than other nations

we make the MOST garbage per person of ANYONE in the fucking world.

are you saying we shouldn't do anything and get others to do the same? no, then why is the concept hard for you and you against it. get your friends to behave responsibly. nothing wrong with that. unless you feel that is not fair for "freedom"

[rwh11385]

NO ONE has said that they are against change. They are just telling you that your stupid forms of change are extreme, uncalled for, and ignorant.

i'm sorry that mentioning other nations who don't waste as much as us that have so extreme ideas like reusing beer bottles or multi function toilets. that sentence doesn't make any sense but fuck yourself like you want to do the world

[rwh11385]

I'd say arrogant more than ignorant.

Bobby - you've bought full-fledged into this idea that human beings are killing the planet. Fine. I'm just not sure what you base this on. I've got a second-hand handle on your background, clubs you are associated with, etc. I find it hard to believe that you are going to take this stance so fervantly. I know you're not stupid in the least, that's why I'm having a hard time with this.

If you are saying simply that the American population should be more conscious about how it discards it's waste and how much it consumes I am completely with you; if for nothing other than the economic ramifications of wasteful spending and consuming. However, you are preaching to people how they SHOULD behave, and if they are a descenting voice they are "ignorant hicks". You sound like Obama.

I'm just as guilty as being a strong personality as you are, and I'm not going to deny that. But there becomes a point when you say, "hey, people are going to make their own choices" and this is one of those points. I strongly encourage people to spend less, be more conscious of how they spend money, etc. All of this is good for them, and good for society. However, your communist dribble is COMPLETELY against your economic background and your logical reasoning that you have positioned in the past.

I think that you sound like an elitist. You know what is best FOR ME... and I believe that no one cares about my best interest more than I do. The LAST THING i want is some individual (conservative or liberal) suggesting what is truly best for me and my life. Our country is based on providing as much freedom as possible whilst still retaining order. Liberals are trying to take that away, and it looks as though you are drinking the Kool-aid in a major way.

I just think that our culture needs to evolve from "fuck what we should do" because we don't have to, to more people acting intelligently considering environmental impact in what they do. no one can force them to, and that is in part the problem. You do what you do because you decide to, but we should get more people to realize our habits are very negative and are damaging.

"big brother" shouldn't need to step in and tell us what to do. but we should do, as you mentioned, try to influence people to use cloth diapers, recycle, go for responsible choices, etc.

I guess that may be too much to act for mr. sleeve. but overall, we can't keep up our bad habits because "we can".

f you are saying simply that the American population should be more conscious about how it discards it's waste and how much it consumes I am completely with you;

that sums it up. we should be smarter about the decisions we make. no one should force anyone but our stubborn attitude to do what we want should be evolved to do what we want in consideration of the effect we are having on the world and environment.

[mrsleeve]

propaganda? seeing other nations recycle, reuse better than the USA be propaganda? after Ted says we aren't worse than other nations

we make the MOST garbage per person of ANYONE in the fucking world.

are you saying we shouldn't do anything and get others to do the same? no, then why is the concept hard for you and you against it. get your friends to behave responsibly. nothing wrong with that. unless you feel that is not fair for "freedom"

Yes Propaganda is all that has come out of AL's mouth as well as many other documentaries on the subject. Its all non conclusive data, its all pure opinion based loosely on trend data with no regard for other more likely causes.

I will say it one more time and see if it gets through you fucking skull. We need a better source of energy but not due to human induced climate change.

Did you ever stop to think that those other nations have bought what Al was sellin hook line and sinker as well??? Some day you will learn to think for your self and not take what your prof says for granted, or believe everything you see on the TV.

[rwh11385]

Yes Propaganda is all that has come out of AL's mouth as well as many other documentaries on the subject. Its all non conclusive data, its all pure opinion based loosely on trend data with no regard for other more likely causes.

I will say it one more time and see if it gets through you fucking skull. We need a better source of energy but not due to human induced climate change.

Did you ever stop to think that those other nations have bought what Al was sellin hook line and sinker as well??? Some day you will learn to think for your self and not take what your prof says for granted, or believe everything you see on the TV.

Can you read? I said I didn't believe in global warming.

I do believe we should be doing more to be less wasteful. Like Subaru. Ain't nothing wrong like that unless you have a thick skull with nothing inbetween the ears.

I didn't know recycling was for suckers? I guess we should all throw out as much shit as we can just to piss people off. Done.

[monty]

I have never worked in the fast food industry but what do they do to recycle? Seems to me like they are pretty wastefull. I went to Taco Bell the other day for lunch and I got the "Big Box Meal". Basically they give you your food, in a box, on a tray. I take all my food out of my box, set in on my tray, and set the box aside. By the time I am done with my meal I go to throw everything away and have this perfectly good box that has been touched by nothing but the human hand.
Anyhow, fast food restaurants should have recycle bins next to the garbage cans and a troff like a urinal. When your done with your drink poor out the waste in the troff and recycle the cup, lid, and straw. Then recycle what ever esle is able to be recycled like a box from a Big Box Meal that what untouched and merely there for a sales pitch.

[2Big4a3Series]

It all comes down to what is practical.

As an example, cloth diapers are nice. But who really wants to carry around a bag full human waste all day while shopping or on a family outing? You have bacteria, germs, and other things that put the health of the parent and the people within the vicinity of the diaper bag at risk. And let's not mention what an "all natural" diaper probably smells like after it has been used. Amusement parks probably generate as many plastic diapers in a day as there are people in the park. Maybe it's not that great for the landfill but I'd rather not stand in line behind some parent carrying around the entrails from their bundle of joy. Even in the fast food industry I wouldn't want to get a Whopper, onion rings, and a slice of pie on a plate with foil wrapped over the top of it and my drink in a Tupperware cup.

And what about the households where both parents are working? Do they really have time to wash out every bottle, can, and cardboard food container? Do they live in a house or apartment big enough to store the extra trash between pickups?

[Maluco]

cigarette smoke contributes to global warming... Yet another reason to quit smoking.

some argue that the white smoke can actually have the adverse affect, reflecting the suns rays back out of the atmosphere...

O'Rly... some of this shit is ridiculous!

[Draccent]

Global warming??

Who the hell knows what it is.

Take a moment to review a pictorial graph of the last million years of sea rise and fall, and you'll see that we leave off just at the start of a rise. Keep in mind...there have been tons of millions of small sea level oscillations over the eons in addition to the major ones, and its indecisive as to if we are on the fall of a mini-crest or on the rise for a large rise in sea level. Its simply a natural occurence and if we do in fact accelerate it its only bringing about the inevitable anyway. What will happen will happen....and I highly doubt your going to stop or turn geological force around in anyway.

As in...basically..half of California, could theoretically be nuked and (nudged) out to sea as it is going to eventually go out to sea anyway. There is a HUGE subduction zone right at that area.

[Maluco]

[Ryan Stewart]

Bingo. The 2 mode toilets were very common in Germany as well when I was there.

So is brown coal, which is restricted here because its like burning shit and has to be strip mined.

Nobody's perfect.