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    #61
    oh, I know supply exists - I was talking to my boss at lunch, and he says there's a 100 year supply of oil in the tar sands in Alberta alone - enough to power all of north america (including growth). there is also a ton in the arctic, unexplored areas of asia, and under the ocean floor. but it becomes increasingly costly to get to - while demand simultaneously increases.

    And yes, our refinery capacity isn't nearly enough, but the arabs are nearly tapped out - they don't have an interest in $100 oil prices, because it makes alternative energy sources (be it tar sands or electricty) more attractive. If they were able to increase production, they would do so - but they do not reinvest their profits back into oil exlporation, it goes into funding the governments of those nations.

    it's not just a coincidence that oil has hit $100 a barrel (although part of that is the falling dollar, since barrels of oils are priced in USD). There is only so much supply, so many available resources to extract that supply, and a whole lot of demand.
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      #62
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      that is true - what I am saying is that supply **could** come a LOT closer to meeting demand; even with demand being held constant or increasing at it's current or higher levels.
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        #63
        This is my question for people to think about...

        Who benefits from the idea of global-warming?
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          #64
          Originally posted by uofom3 View Post
          This is my question for people to think about...

          Who benefits from the idea of global-warming?
          for a while now and I imagine for some time to come, those being funded and all the spokespersons (in their many different forms)

          It wasn't enough to try to obtain funding for alternative energy, something greater was needed that would allow much more to take place. I remember when the arguement was for more self-sustainability. I always laughed at people hating on SUV drivers. What about the companies that manufacture them? If they are ok to be manufactured, how in the hell is it not ok for them to be bought and driven as much as the person's finances desire. Shit is so twisted...

          We hear about what goes on in other countries but I have witnessed it first hand many of times in my home country. Since as far back as I can remember, Brasil has had cars running on Alcohol, Natural Gas, a combination of natural gas and gas etc.. In 2005 Flex-fuel cars, running on any combination of ethanol and petrol, took 53.6% of the market there! Matter a fact Brasil has made ethanol-driven cars for 25 years! Did I miss anything of this sort taking place here or what? How did it jump to you humans and your big SUV's Global warming, turn the lights off shit...?
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            #65
            MANY MANY people. And it's about cash.
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              #66
              No one can deny that mankind is having an adverse effect on our planet.

              That being said, did global warming lead to the demise of the last ice age? In a way, it did. However, I have a hard time believing that that global warming event was induced by mankind's rape of the environment.

              The present trend is a natural, cyclical event IMHO. Its intensity is exacerbated by the presence of modern man, no doubt.

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                #67
                I cant believe people still need convincing. Its like people who think cigarettes and cocaine are healthy for you.



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                  #68
                  Originally posted by uofom3 View Post
                  This is my question for people to think about...

                  Who benefits from the idea of global-warming?
                  So-called “global warming” is just

                  a secret ploy by wacko tree-

                  huggers to make America energy

                  independent, clean our air and

                  water, improve the fuel efficiency

                  of our vehicles, kick-start

                  21st-century industries, and make

                  our cities safer and more livable.

                  Don’t let them get away with it!

                  Chip Giller
                  Founder of Grist.org
                  '84 318i - Lapisblau/Schwarz (in cryosleep)
                  '06 330i - Titansilber/Schwarz

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by kway View Post
                    So-called “global warming” is just

                    a secret ploy by wacko tree-

                    huggers to make America energy

                    independent, clean our air and

                    water, improve the fuel efficiency

                    of our vehicles, kick-start

                    21st-century industries, and make

                    our cities safer and more livable.

                    Don’t let them get away with it!

                    Chip Giller
                    Founder of Grist.org

                    someone has been reading the side of Starbucks Coffee cups
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by uofom3 View Post
                      someone has been reading the side of Starbucks Coffee cups

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                        #71
                        Originally posted by kway View Post
                        So-called “global warming” is just

                        a secret ploy by wacko tree-

                        huggers to make America energy

                        independent, clean our air and

                        water, improve the fuel efficiency

                        of our vehicles, kick-start

                        21st-century industries, and make

                        our cities safer and more livable.

                        Don’t let them get away with it!

                        Chip Giller
                        Founder of Grist.org
                        So i went to Grist.org and pulled this article:


                        Obama says he WILL make Al Gore a cabinet position.

                        THIS IS WHAT GLOBAL WARMING IS ABOUT. it's not about your car, my car, or the lights on in your house. It's about keeping government in charge, and al gore in the spotlight. If it weren't for global warming, he'd be fucked - a no one, a has been, a laughing stock of the leftist side of life.

                        I'm going to go drive my SUV to the grocery store, and ask for a paper sack for my groceries (because, gasp, paper is RENEWABLE AND CAN BE RECYCLED! baahaha)
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                          #72
                          Originally posted by CleanAzzE30z View Post
                          I cant believe people still need convincing. Its like people who think cigarettes and cocaine are healthy for you.



                          Mariano
                          I can't believe a person who is as well enlightened as you are buys into it so easily.

                          Also, China is now the #1 polluter in the world.

                          Finally - at least OR - the #1 polluter in almost every area is the GOVERNMENT and GOVERNMENT AGENCIES. They dump waste water, drive large trucks, and waste every resource you can imagine. maybe they should fix their own problems before telling you to stop putting 91 octaine in the m3?
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                            #73
                            Originally posted by uofom3 View Post
                            telling you to stop putting 91 octaine in the m3?
                            WOAH WOAH WOAH!!!!! Lets not go overboard here!!!! NEVER say such things in your life.....EVER!!! ;) :D



                            Mariano


                            2001 Titaniumsilber 540i Sport 6-Speed
                            1990 Diamantschwarz Alpha-N 2.5L ///M3
                            1986 Alpinweiss 325e M50B25 (R.I.P.)

                            -Talk to me when more sound comes from the induction than from the exhaust...

                            -Argentina........lo mas grande que hay.

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                              #74
                              Originally posted by uofom3 View Post
                              This is my question for people to think about...

                              Who benefits from the idea of global-warming?
                              Anyone who owns real estate on the Oregon coast.

                              10 degrees warmer and we have Newport Beach North.

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                                #75
                                We need to build more refineries - the newest one in the states is like 25-30 years old. They haven't made any since the 70s!

                                If we would make more, we could refine oil cheaper and give off less pollutants AND lower the cost of gasoline, along other byproducts of crude oil.

                                I agree that we need to build a system of alternative energies. Additionally, I'm TOTALLY backing BMW, among other car companies (my understanding is GM is doing it to) in developing Hydrogen Combustion Motors. Hydrogen, can be made (seperated, etc - whatever they do to get it into the form needed) using alternative forms of energy - so if you think of it that way, we start with hydrogen, which is then transformed into kinetic energy by the motor, and the waste is water! It's the best option we have, and I hope that Hydrogen power can make it.
                                - Sean Hayes

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