Isreal bomb Gaza, killing 195

[parkerbink]

First Israel stole land from the Palestinians then Hamas was created based on the occpation of Palestine....then Hamas started launching rockets. Cause and effect people, it's that simple.

Really???

Show me a Palestine. Where was it? Who were it's leaders???

NEVER EXISTED.

JUDEA WAS THE LAND OF THE JEWS WHICH INCLUDED ALL OF ISRAEL AND MUCH OF MANY OTHER COUNTRIES.

Over the millenia wars were fought and the Jews lost their homeland. The area that is now Israel was the PROPERTY of the English when they GAVE it (arid dead desert) to the Jews.

I am so glad the school system in your area educated you so well.

[joshh]

No.. you're wrong. Go double check that, again.

:drink::drink::drink::drink:

Truth hurts.

[parkerbink]

Truth hurts.

When are you going to tell the truth?

All I see from you is bullshit.

[Vedubin01]

Parkerbink, something is really wrong here..... We stand on the same side on this one!

[SamE30e]

He deserves to be ass rapped with a Mason jar...

Can I post it?!?!?

[joshh]

Really???

Show me a Palestine. Where was it? Who were it's leaders???

NEVER EXISTED.

JUDEA WAS THE LAND OF THE JEWS WHICH INCLUDED ALL OF ISRAEL AND MUCH OF MANY OTHER COUNTRIES.

Over the millenia wars were fought and the Jews lost their homeland. The area that is now Israel was the PROPERTY of the English when they GAVE it (arid dead desert) to the Jews.

I am so glad the school system in your area educated you so well.

Your "argument" is pointless. Tell me who Israel's rules were. Show their land...and not from something so ridiculous as the bible. It was as much the Palestinians as it was the Jews.
You can sit in denial all you like. I have no problem with Israel having some of that land. But not such a huge part of it and they keep taking more and more. Recklessly taking out the Palestinians.
Being given land is one thing (even though it really wasn't the English's to give in the first place) but to then ignore that the people the curently live there not only have to move the fuck out but that they now have to be controlled by this new force.
Jews and Palestinians were living in peace in that same area before WWII. You can deny that as well.
"Dead dessert"...LMFAo...is that why Israel had to kick out so many Palestinians to claim that land.
Israel is as much at fault for what is happening over there as Hamas.
Maybe I should also educate you in what the Israeli's are actually doing with the Palestinians sinse all your wrong data is from our education system that teaches us that Israel good Palestine bad.

[parkerbink]

Your "argument" is pointless. Tell me who Israel's rules were. Show their land...and not from something so ridiculous as the bible.
You can sit in denial all you like. I have no problem with Israel having some of that land. But not such a huge part of it and they keep taking more and more. Recklessly taking out the Palestinians.
Being given land is one thing (even though it really wasn't the English's to give in the first place) but to then ignore that the people the curently live there not only have to move the fuck out but that they now have to be controlled by this new force.
Jews and Palestinians were living in peace in that same area before WWII. You can deny that as well.
"Dead dessert"...LMFAo...is that why Israel had to kick out so many Palestinians to claim that land.
Israel is as much at fault for what is happening over there as Hamas.
Maybe I should also educate you in what the Israeli's are actually doing with the Palestinians sinse all your wrong data is from our education system that teaches us that Israel good Palestine bad.

You have no clue and the more you post the more you prove it.

My point on dead desert is that through hard work and irrigation the desert blooms.

Huge part?? The entire land area that comprises Israel is smaller than New Jersey, less than 22k sq kilometers.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/is.html

Following World War II, the British withdrew from their mandate of Palestine, and the UN partitioned the area into Arab and Jewish states, an arrangement rejected by the Arabs. Subsequently, the Israelis defeated the Arabs in a series of wars without ending the deep tensions between the two sides. The territories Israel occupied since the 1967 war are not included in the Israel country profile, unless otherwise noted.

On 25 April 1982, Israel withdrew from the Sinai pursuant to the 1979 Israel-Egypt Peace Treaty. In keeping with the framework established at the Madrid Conference in October 1991, bilateral negotiations were conducted between Israel and Palestinian representatives and Syria to achieve a permanent settlement. Israel and Palestinian officials signed on 13 September 1993 a Declaration of Principles (also known as the "Oslo Accords") guiding an interim period of Palestinian self-rule. Outstanding territorial and other disputes with Jordan were resolved in the 26 October 1994 Israel-Jordan Treaty of Peace. In addition, on 25 May 2000, Israel withdrew unilaterally from southern Lebanon, which it had occupied since 1982.

In April 2003, US President BUSH, working in conjunction with the EU, UN, and Russia - the "Quartet" - took the lead in laying out a roadmap to a final settlement of the conflict by 2005, based on reciprocal steps by the two parties leading to two states, Israel and a democratic Palestine. However, progress toward a permanent status agreement was undermined by Israeli-Palestinian violence between September 2003 and February 2005. An Israeli-Palestinian agreement reached at Sharm al-Sheikh in February 2005, along with an internally-brokered Palestinian ceasefire, significantly reduced the violence. In the summer of 2005, Israel unilaterally disengaged from the Gaza Strip, evacuating settlers and its military while retaining control over most points of entry into the Gaza Strip.

The election of HAMAS in January 2006 to head the Palestinian Legislative Council froze relations between Israel and the Palestinian Authority (PA). Ehud OLMERT became prime minister in March 2006; following an Israeli military operation in Gaza in June-July 2006 and a 34-day conflict with Hizballah in Lebanon in June-August 2006, he shelved plans to unilaterally evacuate from most of the West Bank. OLMERT in June 2007 resumed talks with the PA after HAMAS seized control of the Gaza Strip and PA President Mahmoud ABBAS formed a new government without HAMAS.

[Vedubin01]

I don't know if it is good or bad to have Colegrove's attitude, but it sure sucks to have Vedub's. He speaks out of his ass, and out of any context. He deserves to be ass rapped with a Mason jar...

If he has any question about any of my products, then he better ask. Not pretend... Here's a simple to understand exemple:


"Hey Lee, are you brakes DOT approved?"

Then I would reply:

"No, Vedub. Nor are AP Racing, Performance Frictions or Alcon..."

Get my point? If he wants to be personal, then he deserves some of Colegrove's "attitude"

It does go hand in hand with the point you were making....

America sells its armaments to Israel. And what ever Israel does after that is none of Americas business. Just like you selling brakes that are illegal to own on American roads. You knowing first hand that many of your brake kits will not see a day of track time but will be used as daily upgraded brakes. To justify your answer by pointing out other companies that might, is just gay and dodging the truth. Your business profits more from selling to Americans than any Canadian. You raised your rates when the dollar fell against the Canadian but has your prices fallen to reflect the 20% fall its taken of late? If I really wanted to I could buy your little basement business 10 fold, but really I would just copy it and undercut you with your own product!

If your brakes were anything like you knowing history I would hope people would wear a DOT helmet while driving with your products.....

[joshh]

You have no clue and the more you post the more you prove it.

My point on dead desert is that through hard work and irrigation the desert blooms.

Huge part?? The entire land area that comprises Israel is smaller than New Jersey, less than 22k sq kilometers.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/is.html

Following World War II, the British withdrew from their mandate of Palestine, and the UN partitioned the area into Arab and Jewish states, an arrangement rejected by the Arabs. Subsequently, the Israelis defeated the Arabs in a series of wars without ending the deep tensions between the two sides. The territories Israel occupied since the 1967 war are not included in the Israel country profile, unless otherwise noted.

On 25 April 1982, Israel withdrew from the Sinai pursuant to the 1979 Israel-Egypt Peace Treaty. In keeping with the framework established at the Madrid Conference in October 1991, bilateral negotiations were conducted between Israel and Palestinian representatives and Syria to achieve a permanent settlement. Israel and Palestinian officials signed on 13 September 1993 a Declaration of Principles (also known as the "Oslo Accords") guiding an interim period of Palestinian self-rule. Outstanding territorial and other disputes with Jordan were resolved in the 26 October 1994 Israel-Jordan Treaty of Peace. In addition, on 25 May 2000, Israel withdrew unilaterally from southern Lebanon, which it had occupied since 1982.

In April 2003, US President BUSH, working in conjunction with the EU, UN, and Russia - the "Quartet" - took the lead in laying out a roadmap to a final settlement of the conflict by 2005, based on reciprocal steps by the two parties leading to two states, Israel and a democratic Palestine. However, progress toward a permanent status agreement was undermined by Israeli-Palestinian violence between September 2003 and February 2005. An Israeli-Palestinian agreement reached at Sharm al-Sheikh in February 2005, along with an internally-brokered Palestinian ceasefire, significantly reduced the violence. In the summer of 2005, Israel unilaterally disengaged from the Gaza Strip, evacuating settlers and its military while retaining control over most points of entry into the Gaza Strip.

The election of HAMAS in January 2006 to head the Palestinian Legislative Council froze relations between Israel and the Palestinian Authority (PA). Ehud OLMERT became prime minister in March 2006; following an Israeli military operation in Gaza in June-July 2006 and a 34-day conflict with Hizballah in Lebanon in June-August 2006, he shelved plans to unilaterally evacuate from most of the West Bank. OLMERT in June 2007 resumed talks with the PA after HAMAS seized control of the Gaza Strip and PA President Mahmoud ABBAS formed a new government without HAMAS.

That doesn't even have anything to do with what I said. LMFAO. But what it does do is shows that I am right in that Israel keeps taking more and more land away from the Palestinians.
Oh so the fact that it was dessert makes it open land is that right. Whether it has people living there or not. Because Israel has made it MORE livable doesn't give them any more right to the land than the Palestinians. Specially since the US gives Israel 3 billion a year in cash.
A huge part OF THAT LAND...read it properly.

[mrsleeve]

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the way it reads to me, the spoils of war were returned to the original aggressors!!!!!!! you start a fight and lose some territory you don't get to keep it. All though in modern times it has become customary after peace is achieved you return the lands. But we still maintain army, naval, and air bases form defeated nations around the world?????? its not different, just the Israelis have given nearly all captured lands back in the name of peace!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Chisum]

Truth hurts.

You know it all to well. Bet it feels good when you stop.

[Chisum]

Can I post it?!?!?

I didn't know rappers could be raped with mason jars. Can you see the Notorious B.I.G. with a mason jar up his ass?

[joshh]

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the way it reads to me, the spoils of war were returned to the original aggressors!!!!!!! you start a fight and lose some territory you don't get to keep it. All though in modern times it has become customary after peace is achieved you return the lands. But we still maintain army, naval, and air bases form defeated nations around the world?????? its not different, just the Israelis have given nearly all captured lands back in the name of peace!!!!!!!!!!!!

The spoils of war...that's why we have the Geneva Conventions. But they keep taking more and more land. That land is as much Palestines as it is Israel's. Yet Israel owns 90% of it and occupies the rest of it.
I would think the Jews would be the one group of people truely after peace. After what they went through in WWII. But yet they have proven otherwise. Hamas goes without saying.

[parkerbink]

That doesn't even have anything to do with what I said. LMFAO. But what it does do is shows that I am right in that Israel keeps taking more and more land away from the Palestinians.
Oh so the fact that it was dessert makes it open land is that right. Whether it has people living there or not. Because Israel has made it MORE livable doesn't give them any more right to the land than the Palestinians. Specially since the US gives Israel 3 billion a year in cash.
A huge part OF THAT LAND...read it properly.

Wow, you just don't know anything.

I'll help you.

As a result of losing world war 1 the Ottoman Empire was divided up among the winners. England got the area known at the time as British Mandate for Palestine.

They allowed Jewish emigration to the area and in 1947 created Israel.

Israel stole nothing. Please read before you further shove your entire family's feet into your mouth.

Since you don't know how to search I'll help you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Mandate_of_Palestine

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_territories

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas

The spoils of war...that's why we have the Geneva Conventions. But they keep taking more and more land. That land is as much Palestines as it is Israel's. Yet Israel owns 90% of it and occupies the rest of it.
I would think the Jews would be the one group of people truely after peace. After what they went through in WWII. But yet they have proven otherwise. Hamas goes without saying.

Israel won several wars, (in which they were not the aggressor) that got them land, they have given the land back only to have it used to launch attacks into Israel so they take it back.

If a terrorist coalition in Canada fired missiles into Detroit do you think the US would just take it? If the Canadian government did nothing I bet we would invade and take the area the missiles were coming from.

Please get a clue.

[rward325]

Those who are left on this board who know me also know I will not chime in unless my ire has been raised or I know what I am talking about. In this particular matter it is both. I will weigh in and then disappear back in to the shadows once again! This blatant anti Semitic rhetoric has got me ole Jewish blood boiling!

For 3000 years the Jews have been harassed, beaten and killed by different societies. Now in the 20th century Great Britain feels nice and gives the Jews a piece of land in the middle of the desert that has been important to them since biblical times. Admittedly this area is also of religious importance to many other religions. Once the state of Israel was recognized by the United Nations the Arab world set out to destroy it. In a series of battles and wars through the 60's and 70's the Israelis have taken land and occupied it as is allowed in the doctrines of war and the Geneva Convention.

After the creation of the Israeli state the Israeli Government offered many Arab and Palestinian settlers in this land double what their land was worth so they could build Kibbutz and settlements for the new Israeli Citizens. The Arabs and the Palestinians gladly accept this money and move away. Years later these same people run out of money and are now crying for their land back. They accuse the Israelis of stealing their property and throwing them out. This is so far from the truth that it is ridiculous.
They have allowed the Palestinians to stay and have treated them well through all of the anti Israeli sentiment of the Palestinian Organizations refusal to recognize the right of Israel to exist. The Palestinians have clearly stated they will not rest until there is not a single Jew left alive. Yet the Israelis have not gone in and wholesale ejected all of these people out of Israel. They have repeatedly given back land that was rightfully taken in the spoils of war. They have openly negotiated with Terrorists for peace as these same terrorists launch Rockets and set bombs to kill Israeli citizens.
How can we look down out noses at he Israelis when all they are trying to do is survive. Yes, the United States supplies the Israelis with weapons. But who is supplying the Palestinians with their arms? Lets take a roll call on this one. Iran, Syria, China and Russia are all in the mix here. The Chinese and the Russians are selling to the highest bidder these days. The Iranians and the Syrians have lots of Oil money to spend. They buy the weapons and then these weapons are then smuggled in to the settlements and used against the Israelis.

Joshh I think you need a serious lesson in world history. If you ever get a chance to come to Cali I would highly recommend a trip to the Museum of Tolerance and the Jewish University at Stephen S. Wise Temple. Both of these places have huge archives of historical documents open for public review. As a Jew and descendant of Holocaust Jews I have spent many hours in these places studying and gathering information for my own personal edification. Let us not forget what has happened or we are doomed to repeat it! Do some studying Josh, get some facts together and them come back to the table informed of things that have really transpired in Israel. I at this point I will disengage as it is tantamount to have a battle of with an unarmed person.