Isreal bomb Gaza, killing 195

[Chisum]

Of course the US sells weapons to Israel. They are our alie. At least we are not like the peace loving French who will sell weapons to anybody who has enough money... Sadam for one.

It is a completely invalid point in the discussion of Hamas brutality and illegal activity.

However, read the first article that you linked. The only fact in there is that the US sells weapons to Israel. The rest of the stuff in there is just random and inflammatory quotes from a CNN correspondent made to sound like it is coming from a Pentagon spokesman. It is not news and it is not factual. Only a moron who can't do a shred of critical thinking would consider that article valid on any level.

Again, you are dodging the issues here by trying to pull in random, unrelated, and misleading tripe.

Hamas is evil. Hamas is subjugating the Palestinians. Hamas is killing children. It's like innocently throwing a child into the lions den and faining shock and horror while blaming the lion for killing the child.

See, that person believes America is a state sponsor of terror. He believes George Bush is a terrorist. He believes Israel is a state sponsor of terror. That's why he was chomping at the bit to post the links proving, in his mind anyway, his beliefs about America and Israel.

[E30 Cabrio]

Guess who supplies weapons and financial support to Hamas?

I'll give you a hint - the name of the country starts with the letter "I"

Edit: You can always tell the whack jobs by the web sites they source.

https://www.georgebushisamonkeyandwelovesocialismandhateamerica.com

[joshh]

Ok, can we let it die now.

[Vedubin01]

Remember that school that everyone was crying over that killed children?

Looks like Hamas was firing mortars right in front of the school.

What not hamas?!?

Well here it is on video.......

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1231167272256&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

[E30 Cabrio]

Remember that school that everyone was crying over that killed children?

Looks like Hamas was firing mortars right in front of the school.

What not hamas?!?

Well here it is on video.......

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...cle%2FShowFull

ZIONIST LIES! :hitler:

[Chisum]

Militant Islam Threatens Us All
Hamas rockets have the same terror goal as Hitler's blitz.

By BENJAMIN NETANYAHU

Imagine a siren that gives you 30 seconds to find shelter before a Kassam rocket falls from the sky and explodes, spraying its lethal shrapnel in all directions. Now imagine this happens day after day, month after month, year after year.

If you can imagine that, you can begin to understand the terror to which hundreds of thousands of Israelis have been subjected. Three years ago Israel withdrew from every square inch of Gaza. And since that withdrawal, our civilians have been targeted by more than 6,000 rockets and mortars fired from Gaza. In the face of this relentless bombardment, Israel has acted with a restraint that other countries, faced with a similar threat, would find hard to fathom. Israel's government has finally decided to respond.

For this action to succeed, we must first have moral clarity. There is no moral equivalence between Israel, a democracy which seeks peace and targets the terrorists, and Hamas, an Iranian-backed terror organization that seeks Israel's destruction and targets the innocent.

In launching precision strikes against Hamas rocket launchers, headquarters, weapons depots, smuggling tunnels and training camps, Israel is trying to minimize civilian casualties. But Hamas deliberately attacks Israeli civilians and deliberately hides behind Palestinian civilians -- a double war crime. Responsible governments do their utmost to minimize civilian casualties, but they do not grant immunity to terrorists who use civilians as human shields.

The international community may occasionally condemn Hamas for putting Palestinian civilians in harm's way, but if it ultimately holds Israel responsible for the casualties that ensue, then Hamas and other terror organizations will employ this abominable tactic again and again.

The charge that Israel is using disproportionate force is equally baseless. Does proportionality demand that Israel fire 6,000 rockets indiscriminately back at Gaza? Does it demand an equal number of casualties on both sides? Using that logic, one would conclude that the United States employed disproportionate force against the Germans because 20 times as many Germans as Americans died in World War II.

In that same war, Britain responded to the firing of thousands of rockets on its population with the wholesale bombing of German cities. Israel's measured response to rocket fire on its cities has come in the form of surgical strikes. To further root out Hamas terrorists in a way that minimizes Palestinian civilian casualties, Israel's army is now engaged in a ground operation that places its soldiers in great peril. Carpet-bombing of Palestinian cities is not an option that any Israeli leader will entertain.

The goal of this mission should be clear: To end the current round of missile attacks and to remove the threat of such attacks in the future. The only cease-fire or diplomatic initiative that should be accepted is one that achieves this dual objective.

If our enemies assumed that the Israeli public would be divided on the eve of an election, they were wrong. When it comes to exercising our most basic right of self-defense, there is no opposition and no coalition. We stand united against Hamas because we know that only by defeating Hamas can we provide security for our people and hope for a future peace.

We fight to defend ourselves, but in so doing we are also fighting a fanatical ideology that seeks to reverse the course of history and throw the civilized world back into a new dark age. The struggle between militant Islam and modernity -- whether fought in Afghanistan, Iraq, India or Gaza -- will decide our common future. It is a battle we cannot afford to lose.

Mr. Netanyahu, Israel's ninth prime minister, is the chairman of the Likud Party and its candidate for prime minister.

[jflip2002]

Thats no secret Lee.......


Guess who sells non DOT brakes to American Street cars?

Lol, thats kinda funny....

[Massive Lee]

DOT ? Hmmm... Are DOT helmets accepted at track events? Nop. The standard is so bad it is worth nothing.

But what's your point Vedub? You wished you could afford a kit but can't?

Don't worry. One day you'll get a job and have some money left at the end of the month

[Farbin Kaiber]

DOT ? Hmmm... Are DOT helmets accepted at track events? Nop. The standard is so bad it is worth nothing.

But what's your point Vedub? You wished you could afford a kit but can't?

Don't worry. One day you'll get a job and have some money left at the end of the month

Hey Lee, your getting a bit of colegrove on your attitude, watch out.

[parkerbink]

Next the antisemites on the board will say the holocaust never happened.

This is chicken/egg people.

FIRST Hamas lobbed thousands of missiles from residential areas (KILLING INNOCENT, NONCOMBATANT ISRALIES) knowing they would get innocents killed when Israel retaliated in order to play the Israel kills children card.

THEN Israel responded trying not to harm innocents but invaribly killing many.

Not rocket science, simple cause and affect.

[joshh]

Next the antisemites on the board will say the holocaust never happened.

This is chicken/egg people.

FIRST Hamas lobbed thousands of missiles from residential areas (KILLING INNOCENT, NONCOMBATANT ISRALIES) knowing they would get innocents killed when Israel retaliated in order to play the Israel kills children card.

THEN Israel responded trying not to harm innocents but invaribly killing many.

Not rocket science, simple cause and affect.

First Israel stole land from the Palestinians then Hamas was created based on the occpation of Palestine....then Hamas started launching rockets. Cause and effect people, it's that simple.

[yoni]

First Israel stole land from the Palestinians then Hamas was created based on the occpation of Palestine....then Hamas started launching rockets. Cause and effect people, it's that simple.

No.. you're wrong. Go double check that, again.

[Need4Speed]

Hey Lee, your getting a bit of colegrove on your attitude, watch out.

Doing a search on "Colegrove" gets you some amazing results in this forum, like a roller coaster. He's 10X more famous now than when he was racing and got caught driving drunk. Nobody would have known it if he hadn't placed lol.

[Chisum]

First Israel stole land from the Palestinians then Hamas was created based on the occpation of Palestine....then Hamas started launching rockets. Cause and effect people, it's that simple.

:drink::drink::drink::drink:

[Massive Lee]

Hey Lee, your getting a bit of colegrove on your attitude, watch out.

I don't know if it is good or bad to have Colegrove's attitude, but it sure sucks to have Vedub's. He speaks out of his ass, and out of any context. He deserves to be ass rapped with a Mason jar...

If he has any question about any of my products, then he better ask. Not pretend... Here's a simple to understand exemple:


"Hey Lee, are you brakes DOT approved?"

Then I would reply:

"No, Vedub. Nor are AP Racing, Performance Frictions or Alcon..."

Get my point? If he wants to be personal, then he deserves some of Colegrove's "attitude"