Mexico joins in on the lawsuit against Arizona.......really?

[thedguy]

you are aware that thanks to lazy surveyors after the Mexican American war AZ does not have rocky point. Thats why there is the angle there from just south of Tucson to the cali border. It was supposed to go straight across to the sea but hot and lazy surveyors fucked up.


Yes I too have family in AZ and I know my mom would like to counter sue Mexico, as some ass hole illegal tried to mug her out side of a lubys at 5pm. But mom would not let go of the purse and she got hurt kinda bad when she feel. And my bro has had more than one run in with them

not to mention the ones that got some inside help to get into my grand parents gated retirement community and had 3 of the living in their winter home (for about a week had a white guy with them passing him self off as ME to the neighbors I dont get down there too often its too damm hot) while they were at home in MI for the summer robbing them blind of 140K dollars worth of stuff from SUV and truck to Very valuable watch and jewelry collection, the gun collection that was there, ever electronic device tool, pots pans , knives everything. The were able to use the tools to get the safes and what not open and basically destroyed the house.

White people born here NEVER steal or con people out of their money.

[dvs909]

White people born here NEVER still or con people out of their money.

i know, thats why we hate illegal immigrants.

[mrsleeve]

yes well these instances had BROWN PEOPLE DOING THEM save for the token white guy to pass off as ME to my grand parents neighbors. The neighbors say the BROWN people, and it was a BROWN person (that when caught had was found to be illegal) that mugged my mother. And it has been BROWN people that have held my brother and friends up.

[thedguy]

yes well these instances had BROWN PEOPLE DOING THEM save for the token white guy to pass off as ME to my grand parents neighbors. The neighbors say the BROWN people, and it was a BROWN person (that when caught had was found to be illegal) that mugged my mother. And it has been BROWN people that have held my brother and friends up.

I've mostly been ripped off by white people. Usually the ones with shit loads of money and are bored kids. If not them it's their parents who run the banks and energy sector. Oh wait thats white collar crime, thats OK. Nothing like stealing millions of peoples retirements and throwing it down the drain then conning them again to save their asses for fucking up miserably.

How are you sure those people were illegals (except the one that mugged your mom) because they had brown skin? They very well could have been legal and/or even second generation. You seem more angry about the "illegals" that were likely only helping the white guy that allowed the crime to so easily happen. I'd wager he was the one that planned it.

[Alkasquawlik]

If not them it's their parents who run the banks and energy sector.

I stopped reading here.

[mrsleeve]

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your better off

I've mostly been ripped off by white people. Usually the ones with shit loads of money and are bored kids. If not them it's their parents who run the banks and energy sector. Oh wait thats white collar crime, thats OK. Nothing like stealing millions of peoples retirements and throwing it down the drain then conning them again to save their asses for fucking up miserably.

So all the gas and electricity you use should be free??? You barrow money from other, that should be free too??? If you want outta the system and dont want to be robbed by the evil rich energy barons BITCH TO YOUR CONGRESSMAN AND YOUR STATE LAW MAKERS to repeal all the taxes and pricing controls. Also go live in a fucking wash and walk or ride your bike every where you need to go, modern conveniences are not a right they they are a luxury and choice not a right, grow the fuck up.

Give me a fucking break, Nothing is free it all costs money, and you have to pay the people who make and maintain the energy delivering devices, you dont want to work for free neither do they.

How are you sure those people were illegals (except the one that mugged your mom) because they had brown skin? They very well could have been legal and/or even second generation. You seem more angry about the "illegals" that were likely only helping the white guy that allowed the crime to so easily happen. I'd wager he was the one that planned it.

Ummm the sure it very well could have been the white guy as the ring leader, but the Tucson PD has said there was a ring of mostly Illegals going around pulling this scam off on snow birds all over the city at that time. I dont make these claims outta supposition, but based on fact.

Illegal is illegal, come the right way or GTFO, I have no issues of you do it the right way, but If I break the law I go to jail and suffer penalties for my actions, not rewarded with citizen ship, or with anything. again grow the fuck up

[e30e]

Well I guess its racist to pull over a car with a 50 cal gun mounted on it too?
lol WHITE DEVILS!

http://www.kold.com/Global/story.asp?S=12678221

Huachuca City Mayor Byron Robertson told the lawmakers, "Last week when my police chief called me in and told me that an SUV-minivan had been stopped on I-10 with a 50-caliber machine gun mounted in the back and a rocket launcher."

Still don't think its a problem?

Kinda sounds like Iraq, we have the same weather.

[dvs909]

herp derp illegal immigrants are safe
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/06/24/...x.html?hpt=Mid

[markseven]

Milwaukee County Board of Supervisors member Peggy West...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWaBkJSPXtk

...doesn't know where AZ is but knows they are bad.

[E30 Cabrio]

A friend of mine works for the county in GA (General Assistance)

90% of the applicants are Hispanic and they get Section 8 housing, Money, A Food Stamps "Card" which is funded every month, something called "CMSP" which is medical care that is better then the plan my employer and I pay a combined $400+ a month for, and a bunch of other goodies.

Here's the rub: They often have 2 sets of ID; 1 set for collecting well over $1,000 a month in benefits and cash from the county, and and 2nd set for work, often under the table, tax free.

They then send all the extra money "home" across the border where it gets spent there and helps the Mexico economy instead of the US economy.

Basically, the tax dollars that should be helping legal citizens are going to illegals, and much of that money is being sent out of the country.

And people wonder why California and the US are going broke?

Also, the 14th Amendment is being abused.
It wasn't meant to be used to create "anchor babies" - it was created so that slaves and the children of slaves could become US citizens.

A loophole in the 14th is being abused and is also bankrupting hospitals near the US/Mexico border and driving up the cost of healthcare as taxpayers have to cover the cost of these births.

There is now also a booming industry in "birth tourism" where women cross into the US to have their kids so that their children automatically are considered US citizens.

This has nothing to do with "racism" or anything else except for the law, which needs to be enforced and amended to prevent abuses.

BTW, as part of his job, my friend had to take Spanish speaking classes in order to communicate with the applicants.

This is just sheer insanity.

I have nothing against any ethnicity, race or religion.

I do have a problem with our laws being abused and exploited to the tune of Billions of dollars a year.

[E30 Cabrio]

[Atreus]

you know you just ended the thread with that post, NO ONE can argue with that. anyone with half a clue that is!


+9999 on your post man.

[E30 Cabrio]

you know you just ended the thread with that post, NO ONE can argue with that. anyone with half a clue that is!


+9999 on your post man.

I'll put the final nail in the coffin:

Man ordered to repay $3M in Calif employment fraud

Saturday, June 26, 2010


(06-26) 09:24 PDT Sacramento, Calif. (AP) --


A former Marysville resident has been sentenced to prison and ordered to pay back $3 million in fraudulently obtained unemployment compensation.


U.S. Attorney Benjamin B. Wagner says 31-year-old Manuel Mejia Ordonez was sentenced Friday to eight years and one month in prison for conspiracy to commit mail fraud and identity theft.
Court records show Ordonez, a Mexican citizen, used stolen employee and employer information to submit false claims to California's Employment Development Department.


He and his co-conspirators allegedly cashed the checks at markets in Marysville and Fresno then wire transferred the funds to colleagues and relatives in California and Mexico.
___
Information from: KXTV-TV

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/06/26/state/n092453D97.DTL

This shit happens all the time with General Assistance, Unemployment Benifits, Disability Insurance, etc...

Our tax dollars are literally being stolen, depriving US citizens from obtaining much-needed benefits and the money is then being sent to Mexico, which helps their economy while ours continues to suffer.

And I've noticed that the media stopped calling it a "recession" once Obama was inagurated - they now call it an "economic downturn"

Fuck them too. They are nothing but complicit enablers for Obama and for the "undocumented migrants"
They rarely call them what they are, which is illegal alien lawbreakers.

How much longer can this continue before we go bankrupt?

How much longer can California, the 8th largest economy in the world continue to remain solvent when money is being siphoned away and sent to another country?

For those of you who live outside of CA and don't care, wake up, because if CA goes bankrupt, it will have a profoundly negative impact on the entire US

[Wiglaf]

nice rant but nobody here is against dealing with this issue.

[thedguy]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
your better off


So all the gas and electricity you use should be free??? You barrow money from other, that should be free too??? If you want outta the system and dont want to be robbed by the evil rich energy barons BITCH TO YOUR CONGRESSMAN AND YOUR STATE LAW MAKERS to repeal all the taxes and pricing controls. Also go live in a fucking wash and walk or ride your bike every where you need to go, modern conveniences are not a right they they are a luxury and choice not a right, grow the fuck up.

Give me a fucking break, Nothing is free it all costs money, and you have to pay the people who make and maintain the energy delivering devices, you dont want to work for free neither do they.

When did I say everything should be free? I was just thinking of all the corporate welfare we've been handing out as well as the sheer amounts of very expensive white collar crime that to me is every bit as important, if not more so, than this illegal problem. Or passing the Free trade agreement which seemed like all it did was send a fuck-ton of American jobs to Mexico and China, and doing nothing for this huge immigration problem.

I don't take loans out. I learned a concept called "don't buy shit you can't afford." If I can't pay cash for it, I don't buy it. I didn't run out and buy a house in an over priced market when everyone was handing out loans they knew couldn't be paid back, I don't try and rent out a big ass apartment I don't need when a room with a garage space is both cheaper and less expensive to heat/cool. I chose a 318 over a 325 partially over fuel usage, my race car is a lightweight Miata which even on the track light on fuel and oil usage as well as brakes and tires.

BTW, you do know that as Arizona passed this law, crime was at it's lowest in years?

If the AZ police strictly enforce this law, I their gonna have a problem we here in LA are very familiar with... race riots. You piss off a large population and harassing them because of their skin color and eventually they will get pissed off.

Ummm the sure it very well could have been the white guy as the ring leader, but the Tucson PD has said there was a ring of mostly Illegals going around pulling this scam off on snow birds all over the city at that time. I dont make these claims outta supposition, but based on fact.

Illegal is illegal, come the right way or GTFO, I have no issues of you do it the right way, but If I break the law I go to jail and suffer penalties for my actions, not rewarded with citizen ship, or with anything. again grow the fuck up

So what you're saying is that if they were legal citizens doing this shit you'd be fine with it? Cause I've known plenty of legal immigrants, as well as those born and raised here for generations, to do this same shit.

A friend of mine works for the county in GA (General Assistance)

90% of the applicants are Hispanic and they get Section 8 housing, Money, A Food Stamps "Card" which is funded every month, something called "CMSP" which is medical care that is better then the plan my employer and I pay a combined $400+ a month for, and a bunch of other goodies.

Here's the rub: They often have 2 sets of ID; 1 set for collecting well over $1,000 a month in benefits and cash from the county, and and 2nd set for work, often under the table, tax free.

They then send all the extra money "home" across the border where it gets spent there and helps the Mexico economy instead of the US economy.

Basically, the tax dollars that should be helping legal citizens are going to illegals, and much of that money is being sent out of the country.

And people wonder why California and the US are going broke?

Also, the 14th Amendment is being abused.
It wasn't meant to be used to create "anchor babies" - it was created so that slaves and the children of slaves could become US citizens.

A loophole in the 14th is being abused and is also bankrupting hospitals near the US/Mexico border and driving up the cost of healthcare as taxpayers have to cover the cost of these births.

There is now also a booming industry in "birth tourism" where women cross into the US to have their kids so that their children automatically are considered US citizens.

This has nothing to do with "racism" or anything else except for the law, which needs to be enforced and amended to prevent abuses.

I'm with you right there. There is nothing to stop anyone else from forging identification to get these benefits as well.

BTW, as part of his job, my friend had to take Spanish speaking classes in order to communicate with the applicants.

This is just sheer insanity.

Many of the teachers here did as well since California tried to make it harder on the Hispanics by outlawing spanish TA's. All they did was slow down the rest of us.

I have nothing against any ethnicity, race or religion.

I do have a problem with our laws being abused and exploited to the tune of Billions of dollars a year.

Sounds like we're in accord here. The impression I get from most of the people on this thread is that it's ONLY illegals doing this shit. It's not, legal immigrants as well as whites and blacks are doing this crap too.