Sept. 11 to be an “International Burn a Koran Day".

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  • briansjacobs
    E30 Fanatic
    • May 2010
    • 1278

    #31
    Originally posted by Deutschland über alles
    what about the people that threaten suicide bombings? no hell for them,just virgins?what about the people that threaten to kill? its just a book, right, Mr.atheist.
    what are you talking about. please qoute who ever you are responding to
    Brian Jacobs

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    • mar1t1me
      E30 Modder
      • Sep 2009
      • 863

      #32
      Originally posted by briansjacobs
      what are you talking about. please qoute who ever you are responding to
      Does it matter? Would it be any more intelligible?

      Deutschy, You can talk about suicide bombing all you want. it's still just talk. Do it, and you're just dead. No virgins, no heaven, no hell, just dead. You and and at least several other people against whom you had a superstitious grudge. You didn't win anything, nor did you solve anything.

      Threaten to kill? Extremists do that. But like any terrorist group, once we are scared of them, they only need to threaten. Like the KKK. Early in their history, they performed a fair number of lynchings, but as time passed, fewer and fewer were done because the fear of lynching had sufficiently changed the behavior to suit the terrorists. America is well down a path that has turned the once-greatest-nation-on-the-face-of-the-earth into an ignorantly paranoid, intolerant society of people afraid of the "other". America has changed for the worse, and the terrorists are delighted.

      And now this ignorant, book-burning ass hat is taking a page right out of the Nazi playbook:

      In 1933 In Berlin, some 40,000 people gathered in the Opernplatz to hear Joseph Goebbels deliver a fiery address: “No to decadence and moral corruption!” Goebbels enjoined the crowd. “Yes to decency and morality in family and state!

      And here we fuckin' go again.....

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      • Deutschland über alles
        Banned
        • Aug 2010
        • 80

        #33
        so, its not okay to burn a book? what about having the freedom to do just that. how about getting together and burning our t.v. sets? would your panties be in a bunch if he wanted to gather people together to do that? or is it just paper media? they didnt have t.v. back then, people read books. what was the nazi play book exactly? they didn't force, at gun point to burn those books.

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        • mar1t1me
          E30 Modder
          • Sep 2009
          • 863

          #34
          Originally posted by Deutschland über alles
          so, its not okay to burn a book? what about having the freedom to do just that. how about getting together and burning our t.v. sets? would your panties be in a bunch if he wanted to gather people together to do that? or is it just paper media? they didnt have t.v. back then, people read books. what was the nazi play book exactly? they didn't force, at gun point to burn those books.
          I'm in favor of burning TV sets, actually. LOL

          Books are symbolic. Burning books, like burning the American flag is constitutionally protected.

          That doesn't mean I have to approve of it. But I thought we Americans were above burning books. Doesn't matter though. In my opinion, one religion calling another religion "of the devil" is a sign of a delusional mind.

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          • mrsleeve
            I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
            • Mar 2005
            • 16385

            #35
            Hey Christians are well know for their book burring

            anyone remember the Library at Alexandria???

            Yeah and islam has it phases of book burning as well. So really its a moot point at best and really do we need to be pissing them off more, its just bad form period.
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            • Deutschland über alles
              Banned
              • Aug 2010
              • 80

              #36
              so we shouldn't be tolerant of the book burners? who cares about pissing them off, this is America.

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              • Deutschland über alles
                Banned
                • Aug 2010
                • 80

                #37
                if they don't like people expressing their freedom to do so...they can use their freedom to move somewhere else, where they don't allow such freedom.

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                • markseven
                  R3V Elite
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 5327

                  #38
                  Originally posted by mar1t1me
                  Does it matter? Would it be any more intelligible?

                  Deutschy, You can talk about suicide bombing all you want. it's still just talk. Do it, and you're just dead. No virgins, no heaven, no hell, just dead. You and and at least several other people against whom you had a superstitious grudge. You didn't win anything, nor did you solve anything.

                  Threaten to kill? Extremists do that. But like any terrorist group, once we are scared of them, they only need to threaten. Like the KKK. Early in their history, they performed a fair number of lynchings, but as time passed, fewer and fewer were done because the fear of lynching had sufficiently changed the behavior to suit the terrorists. America is well down a path that has turned the once-greatest-nation-on-the-face-of-the-earth into an ignorantly paranoid, intolerant society of people afraid of the "other". America has changed for the worse, and the terrorists are delighted.

                  And now this ignorant, book-burning ass hat is taking a page right out of the Nazi playbook:

                  In 1933 In Berlin, some 40,000 people gathered in the Opernplatz to hear Joseph Goebbels deliver a fiery address: “No to decadence and moral corruption!” Goebbels enjoined the crowd. “Yes to decency and morality in family and state!

                  And here we fuckin' go again.....
                  You're kidding, right? I am in no way supporting the burning, but you are not only a fear monger, you speak out of both sides of you mouth. You said this about the Mosque issue

                  It comes down to this, fellas....

                  76.5% of American adults are Christian (52% Protestant; 24.5% Catholic).
                  • 14.1% do not follow any organized religion; they are Agnostics, Atheists, Humanists, Secularists, or have no religious affiliation.
                  • 1.3% are Jewish.
                  0.5% are Muslim, followers of Islam.
                  • 0.5% are Buddhist.
                  • 0.4% are Hindu.
                  • 0.3% are Unitarian Universalist.
                  • 0.1% are Neopagan (Druids, Pagans, Wiccans, etc.)
                  • There are many more small religions, each of whom are followed by fewer than 0.1% of American adults.

                  That's one half of one percent. I really don't think they're poised for a takeover anytime soon.....although you wouldn't know it from the ignorant paranoia displayed by the Mosqueteers.
                  What percetage of the population will burn the Koran? .000001 or less? Yet you think they have the capabilty to change the course of history, in a manner you compared to the Nazi initaives? Feat mongering indeed.
                  I Timothy 2:1-2

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                  • Need4Speed1299
                    Advanced Member
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 119

                    #39
                    Burning the Koran is horrible and all sorts of wrong.

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                    • mar1t1me
                      E30 Modder
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 863

                      #40
                      Originally posted by markseven
                      What percetage of the population will burn the Koran? .000001 or less? Yet you think they have the capabilty to change the course of history, in a manner you compared to the Nazi initaives? Feat mongering indeed.
                      Does the visual of Muslims rejoicing in the streets shortly after 9/11 stick in your mind? Did you think a.) all Muslims were rejoicing and the camera just happened to focus on these guys, or b.) that was a very small percentage of the population whose outrageous behavior attracted the attention of the media?

                      Now, how do you think people in other countries will perceive this nutcase-especially as we see the inevitable copycats? Will they say these are the actions of delusional whackos, or will it be assumed that because we tolerate this behavior that we are all complicit?

                      It's a complicated issue, to be sure. We must realize that for everyone who actually goes out and buys a Quran just so they can burn it, there are likely many thousands of similarly ignorant Americans who mutter under their breath "hell yeah".

                      Big changes often start small. The first Nazi book burning was a relatively small affair that occurred nearly 6 years prior to the start of WWII. I would imagine we are all aware of what happened next.
                      Last edited by mar1t1me; 08-26-2010, 08:06 PM.

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                      • Deutschland über alles
                        Banned
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 80

                        #41
                        f****'em if they cant take a joke, would all of you saying burning the Koran is "all kinds of wrong" say the same if the Muslims said "burn our book and we'll kill all of you and your family's with suicide bombers"? o'wait they did.
                        how about if (Muslim) people said they were going to start/continue burning the bible?
                        o'wait they did. would you start crying.
                        and what the f*** does nazi germany have to do with any of this? nazis are bad. they burn book. you burn book you bad.

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                        • ck_taft325is
                          R3V OG
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 6880

                          #42
                          Originally posted by mar1t1me
                          Does the visual of Muslims rejoicing in the streets shortly after 9/11 stick in your mind? Did you think a.) all Muslims were rejoicing and the camera just happened to focus on these guys, or b.) that was a very small percentage of the population whose outrageous behavior attracted the attention of the media?

                          Now, how do you think people in other countries will perceive this nutcase-especially as we see the inevitable copycats? Will they say these are the actions of delusional whackos, or will it be assumed that because we tolerate this behavior that we are all complicit?

                          It's a complicated issue, to be sure. We must realize that for everyone who actually goes out and buys a Quran just so they can burn it, there are likely many thousands of similarly ignorant Americans who mutter under their breath "hell yeah".

                          Big changes often start small. The first Nazi book burning was a relatively small affair that occurred nearly 6 years prior to the start of WWII. I would imagine we are all aware of what happened next.

                          Ironically, Hitler prescribed hugely to ideals and view points concerning religion that you do. So by your logic, that makes you a Nazi comparable to Hitler?

                          Yeah.

                          Sounds stupid doesn't it?

                          Do yourself a favor and really, really read what you write and just for the tiniest bit of a second try and imagine not be so selfish that you truly believe the world revolves around everything you say. More often than not you're statements sound like the whiner whining about how he can't stand all the other whiners.
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                          • briansjacobs
                            E30 Fanatic
                            • May 2010
                            • 1278

                            #43
                            I think the responses in this thread (mine being the exception of course:p) are a perfect example why our country is in the shitter. It seems we used to aim to be better than everyone else, now I keep hearing statements if they are doing so are we. We show them by doing the same thing. This should not be actions of a great nation. These are the actions of a 12 year old!
                            Brian Jacobs

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                            • Deutschland über alles
                              Banned
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 80

                              #44
                              Originally posted by briansjacobs
                              I think the responses in this thread (mine being the exception of course:p) are a perfect example why our country is in the shitter. It seems we used to aim to be better than everyone else, now I keep hearing statements if they are doing so are we. We show them by doing the same thing. This should not be actions of a great nation. These are the actions of a 12 year old!
                              what would adults do,exactly? inform me. would they threaten suicide bombings, or invade the country that the government there encourage extremism. I am pretty sure those people are not twelve.
                              should we "ground" the Taliban or the people in Florida?
                              the country is in the shitter because of all the weak willed people.
                              the middle east is a hard country, most weak people die, or move here and complain.

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                              • briansjacobs
                                E30 Fanatic
                                • May 2010
                                • 1278

                                #45
                                well for one, I think the reaction of burning anything that could cause controversy by the masses especially something that could spark the rage of a psychopath is not a well thought out, mature, or responsible act. The fact that some Muslims burned the American flag in Iraq is not relavant. Burning a Quran is not going to get them to do what you want them to do, it is only counter productive and sets both sides back.
                                Brian Jacobs

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