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  • nando
    Moderator
    • Nov 2003
    • 34827

    #271
    it seems to depend on which biased source you look at.
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    • rwh11385
      lance_entities
      • Oct 2003
      • 18403

      #272
      Originally posted by joshh
      Quoted for when the price goes back down as it did at the beginning of 2009.
      How's that going for you?


      U.S. gas prices at highest ever for Labor Day weekend

      The national average for a gallon of regular gasoline hit $3.80 on Monday, up 14 cents from the same time last year, the highest price ever recorded during a Labor Day weekend, GasBuddy.com reports.

      On Friday, the average price of gas was $3.83 per gallon, according to AAA. Monday’s price of $3.80 beat the Labor Day record of $3.68 set in 2008, the association reported.


      AAA: August gas price increase highest in seven years
      August was marked by significant spikes in gas prices. In fact, according to the AAA, the national average jump of 30.8 cents is the second highest since 2000 when the auto club began keeping records.
      Still, gas is not at $5. Given the several supply issues currently and the fact that after labor day gas prices usually subside slightly, this might be the peak for the year. Although I don't expect gas to go much lower than $3.50-ish personally. (obviously extreme shocks on either side could change that in either direction, but joshh's hopes for gas under $2 again is a bit outlandish)

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      • redsubdivisions
        E30 Mastermind
        • Feb 2011
        • 1762

        #273
        Let's make it simple:

        Oil companies raise prices. Despite bitching and "protesting", we pay the prices anyways and they make a nice profit. Does it make sense for them to bring it under $3/gal again? Hell no. Capitalism flourishes in America and oil companies make a nice profit. Why would they scrap a money making plan? It sucks, but we should have learned our lesson from the crisis of the 70's. It will only go up from here, ladies and gents.
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        • mrsleeve
          I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
          • Mar 2005
          • 16385

          #274
          ^

          Does not really understand how and where big oil makes its money and what is truelly effecting enegy priceing. Reread this thread and posts from myself and heeter and you will gain this knowledge
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          • Vedubin01
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            • Jun 2006
            • 5852

            #275
            Originally posted by mrsleeve
            ^

            Does not really understand how and where big oil makes its money and what is truelly effecting enegy priceing. Reread this thread and posts from myself and heeter and you will gain this knowledge
            come on man, its Bush and Chaney that controls the market though Haliburton. Everyone knows this already
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            • rwh11385
              lance_entities
              • Oct 2003
              • 18403

              #276
              Originally posted by Vedubin01
              come on man, its Bush and Chaney that controls the market though Haliburton. Everyone knows this already
              lol. Yeah - instead of understanding markets, some people always just place blame on figureheads who don't really have control. The Huff Post followers attacked Bush and now the Drudge crowd blames Obama.

              It's a whole lot more logical and intelligent to look at supply/demand, instead of politics.
              Last edited by rwh11385; 09-05-2012, 07:28 AM.

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              • nando
                Moderator
                • Nov 2003
                • 34827

                #277
                Yeah, oil companies don't just raise prices when they feel like it, and have no direct control to begin with (futures and commodities markets, wut?). Oil was also thought to be inelastic, which was proven totally wrong the last 4 years when demand shrank dramatically causing prices to collapse and begin a long term decline in nations like the usa.
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                • CorvallisBMW
                  Long Schlong Longhammer
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 13039

                  #278
                  Refinery fire in CA + refinery fire in Venezuela + offshore rigs shutdown for Hurricane + increased demand by travelers on Labor Day weekend = higher prices.

                  It's Sorcery I tell you!!

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                  • rwh11385
                    lance_entities
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 18403

                    #279
                    Yep. Too bad such rational look at the situation isn't done by more of the public.


                    TransCanada submitted revised route for XL yesterday: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...88412A20120905

                    edit, in response to sleeve below: "TransCanada Corp (TRP.TO) said on Wednesday it has submitted a new route for the project to build the Keystone XL oil sands pipeline from Canada to Texas that will avoid sensitive ecological areas in Nebraska."


                    The latest proposed Keystone XL pipeline route is TransCanada’s second attempt to satisfy state environmental regulators. The Nebraska Department of Environmental Quality said in July that the initial revised route crossed land that could erode easily and passed near unconfined aquifers that supply drinking water to residents and livestock.

                    The new TransCanada proposal tweaks that April plan, making the route veer east shortly after entering the state to avoid more of the sensitive areas in Keya Paha County, east again around the town of Clarks and west around the town of Western to avoid drinking water well fields.
                    My email newsletter had tidbits from multiple sources and the Reuters didn't mention the revision as clearly as WP
                    Last edited by rwh11385; 09-06-2012, 05:53 AM.

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                    • mrsleeve
                      I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 16385

                      #280
                      ^

                      Look at dubs. Richer thread. Average people seem to always thing the evil rich man or company is out to screw little ol them all the time.


                      Again with another re-route, or is the same one they submitted to FERC back in march I think?? Go ahead keep adding to the cost and delays, trascanada is libale to just fuck the whole thing cut their losses and build over the rockies to BC and ship it abroad, that is in the works as well
                      Originally posted by Fusion
                      If a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
                      The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de Tocqueville


                      The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken

                      Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
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                      • Vedubin01
                        R3V Elite
                        • Jun 2006
                        • 5852

                        #281
                        $9 a gallon for gas in NJ and NY

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                        • iamsam
                          Advanced Member
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 172

                          #282
                          Originally posted by Vedubin01
                          $9 a gallon for gas in NJ and NY

                          what? how is that an effective protest? They are protesting having to charge more for gas by... wait for it.... charging more for gas?

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                          • rwh11385
                            lance_entities
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 18403

                            #283
                            Originally posted by joshh
                            Quoted for when the price goes back down as it did at the beginning of 2009.
                            Again, joshh... how is that going for you?

                            Originally posted by rwh11385
                            Still, gas is not at $5. Given the several supply issues currently and the fact that after labor day gas prices usually subside slightly, this might be the peak for the year. Although I don't expect gas to go much lower than $3.50-ish personally. (obviously extreme shocks on either side could change that in either direction, but joshh's hopes for gas under $2 again is a bit outlandish)

                            No crazy $2/gal gas for the election? Maybe the President doesn't control gas prices... with that free-market and all.

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                            • joshh
                              R3V OG
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 6195

                              #284
                              Originally posted by rwh11385
                              Again, joshh... how is that going for you?




                              No crazy $2/gal gas for the election? Maybe the President doesn't control gas prices... with that free-market and all.
                              Damn you pick bad timing for your attacks.



                              :rolf1:

                              And just to make sure you don't keep trying to twist my words. I've never said the President controls the price of gas. But their policies sure have an effect. And in this case it works in my favor. Obama's policies are so terrible he couldn't even get the prices lower before the election because his energy policies are so anti Coal/crude. Thanks for the support on how terrible Obama's economy is rwh11385.
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                              • rwh11385
                                lance_entities
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 18403

                                #285
                                Originally posted by joshh
                                Damn you pick bad timing for your attacks.



                                :rolf1:

                                And just to make sure you don't keep trying to twist my words. I've never said the President controls the price of gas. But their policies sure have an effect. And in this case it works in my favor. Obama's policies are so terrible he couldn't even get the prices lower before the election because his energy policies are so anti Coal/crude. Thanks for the support on how terrible Obama's economy is rwh11385.
                                LOL joshh. Wow, gas prices are right in line with what I expected and nowhere close to your sub-$2 expectations and you are celebrating? Pathetic.

                                Gasoline prices averaged $3.5454 per gallon on November 2
                                Originally posted by rwh11385
                                Still, gas is not at $5. Given the several supply issues currently and the fact that after labor day gas prices usually subside slightly, this might be the peak for the year. Although I don't expect gas to go much lower than $3.50-ish personally. (obviously extreme shocks on either side could change that in either direction, but joshh's hopes for gas under $2 again is a bit outlandish)

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