Egypt unrest

[kronus]

we don't know if this is really a popular uprising or not

Seriously?

[gwb72tii]

you know whats sad

we don't know if this is really a popular uprising or not, yet
but that didn't stop obama from coming out in favor of the muslim brotherhood gangsta's

but when there was an actual popular uprising in iran, that would have rid the world of actual terrorist leaders, obama said it was not wise to meddle

wtf? obama has no clue what it means to be the leader of the free world

[Farbin Kaiber]

Told by the guy with a wing on his roof.

And, more importantly, info they might have liked to have access to.

http://openmesh.wordpress.com/

[frankenbeemer]

It will most likely decide to keep its resources and means of transportation to itself. Including the Suez Canal (which was essentially why the US supported the Egyptian governement for over 40 years and to keep control on the Canal - Same as with Panama). And guess what goes thru the Canal? Fuel. Bro. Fuel.

About 8% of the world's trade traverses the Suez, not all of that is oil. The Egypt can keep the canal to itself, but won't, they need the revenue. This won't be the reason if gas goes to $5, more complicated than your milkshake analogy. I drink your milkshake. :D

[Massive Lee]

http://www.salon.com/news/politics/w...s_egypt_scared

Very good article, that despite not reflecting what most Americans think (especially a few "experts" on R3V), reflects the true situation. When in my first post I mentionned that Israel was the first country that needs to be scared, that is exactly reflected in the article. The artificial US-sponsored status quo (supporting another dictature to US' and Israel's best interests) will probably end soon when Egyptians regain their autonomy.

[kronus]

Ctrl-V Kronus? I expected more from you! jk got to bust your balls! ;)

I bow to the master of Ctrl+V

[Vedubin01]

http://www.salon.com/news/politics/w...s_egypt_scared

Ctrl-V Kronus? I expected more from you! jk got to bust your balls! ;)

[kronus]

http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2011/01/29/weiss_egypt_scared

[Vedubin01]

there are even reports of the military looting. These artifacts will not be easily sold on any market and most likely be melted down for just weight. A really sad loss to the world and the Egyptian people.

[CorvallisBMW]

^ The looting and destruction of Egyptian artifacts is a serious problem. The things contained within their various museums are, of course, priceless and irreplaceable. I sincerely hope the reports of the army being deployed to protect various historical sights and museums are true.

Last time the US supposedly brought "democracy" to a Middle Eastern country, we know what happened... The US's vision of a balanced society doen't apply everywhere. Because in other regions, the society is not structured as in the US and "democracy" isn't what holds the society together. Not everyone dreams of a milk shake on Main street on Saturday night...

BTW I find interesting that suddenly, most everyone supports the uprising of the Egyptians against their corrupt dictatorship (which is supported by the US). Guess what happens if the governement changes a for a real representative one. It will most likely decide to keep its resources and means of transportation to itself. Including the Suez Canal (which was essentially why the US supported the Egyptian governement for over 40 years and to keep control on the Canal - Same as with Panama). And guess what goes thru the Canal? Fuel. Bro. Fuel.

Very true on both counts. The Suez Canal is vital to world trade; if a government takes over in Egypt that has an un-friendly view of the west or of global trade, we could be in for a tough lesson.

[Vedubin01]

Bedouin tribesman have reportedly taken control of two towns in the Sinai Peninsula. These two towns are the closest to the Gaza Strip and right next to the border with Israel. There were reports yesterday that Bedouin tribes had besieged a police station in Suez and it appears that these riots have spread. This would effectively end the Mubarak dictatorship’s control of the region. There are no reports of the Egyptian military stepping in here.

The more disturbing news is a threat that has been made by the tribes if Mubarak does not step down. According to one report coming from Time Magazine, they are willing to attack the Suez Canal if Mubarak does not leave. The Suez Canal currently is where a third of the world’s oil and six percent of all products passes through. A seizure of the Canal could spike oil prices beyond the current $90 level, perhaps over $110. This could come to pass despite the fact that Egypt is not a major oil producer.

http://www.worldthreats.com/?p=5659

Hamas gunmen from Gaza battle Egyptian forces in Sinai

The Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood, confirmed by its bosses in Damascus, to open a second, Palestinian front against the Mubarak regime. The Muslim Brotherhood is therefore more active in the uprising than it would appear.

Hamas gunmen went straight into battle with Egyptian Interior Ministry special forces (CFF) in the southern Egyptian-controlled section of the border town of Rafah and the Sinai port of El Arish...

http://www.debka.com/article/20608/

Other news...

Sudanese police clash with students in Khartoum

KHARTOUM — Sudanese police beat and arrested students on Sunday as protests broke out throughout Khartoum demanding the government resign, inspired by a popular uprising in neighboring Egypt.

Hundreds of armed riot police fired tear gas on students demonstrating in central Khartoum and in at least two universities in the capital, which were surrounded by police reinforcements. At one, students hurled stones at police cars.

Police beat students with batons as they chanted anti-government slogans like: "We are ready to die for Sudan" and "Revolution, revolution until victory."

Groups have emerged on social networking sites calling themselves "Youth for Change" and "The Spark," since the uprisings in nearby Tunisia and close ally Egypt this month.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41334956/ns/world_news-africa/

Egyptian looters destroy 2,000-year-old mummies in bid to steal King Tut's treasures

The army was on guard at Egypt’s most popular tourist sites last night after two 2,000-year-old mummies in the country’s national museum were destroyed by looters attempting to steal the treasures of King Tutankhamun.

Soldiers were positioned at the Pyramids and Cairo’s Egyptian Museum – the holding place for Tutankhamun’s priceless golden mask and other artifacts – on the fifth day of anti-government demonstrations in the country’s capital.

Nine men broke into the Egyptian Museum in the early hours of yesterday, taking advantage of damage caused to the building’s security by a fire in the neighbouring headquarters of the ruling National Democratic Party.

They were caught by police and a crowd of civilians while carrying out the skulls of two mummies and two statues estimated to be more than 2,000 years old.

One statue, believed to be of Tutankhamun, was broken into two pieces by the thieves, although officials said they hoped to be able to repair it.

Zahi Hawass, chairman of the Supreme Council of Antiquities, said: ‘They tried to attack and rob from the showcases of King Tut, but they failed. These people are criminals, they are not true Egyptians. The nine men were caught carrying skulls and two statues, one of which was broken. But the army are now guarding the museum and all the museums are now safe.’

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-stranded.html

[dkbmxer002]

. Guess what happens if the governement changes a for a real representative one. It will most likely decide to keep its resources and means of transportation to itself. Including the Suez Canal (which was essentially why the US supported the Egyptian governement for over 40 years and to keep control on the Canal - Same as with Panama). And guess what goes thru the Canal? Fuel. Bro. Fuel.

people seem to forget this. but hey, lets bitch about how we want our cake and we want to eat it too.

[Massive Lee]

I am and its happening. Once you introduce democracy into an area that never had it, it spreads like a wildfire and the oppressed want to be free.

Last time the US supposedly brought "democracy" to a Middle Eastern country, we know what happened... The US's vision of a balanced society doen't apply everywhere. Because in other regions, the society is not structured as in the US and "democracy" isn't what holds the society together. Not everyone dreams of a milk shake on Main street on Saturday night...

BTW I find interesting that suddenly, most everyone supports the uprising of the Egyptians against their corrupt dictatorship (which is supported by the US). Guess what happens if the governement changes a for a real representative one. It will most likely decide to keep its resources and means of transportation to itself. Including the Suez Canal (which was essentially why the US supported the Egyptian governement for over 40 years and to keep control on the Canal - Same as with Panama). And guess what goes thru the Canal? Fuel. Bro. Fuel.

So, yes. I am all for a widespread of liberties where people regain control over their resources, and not give them away to others. But, be carefull with what you wish for. BTW Did I forget to mention that Palestine has one of the very few democratically elected goverment in the Middle East.... And see how democracy is being crushed...

[bdracing]

Who said that I forgot. Are you wishing for another widespread conflict in the Middle East?

I am and its happening. Once you introduce democracy into an area that never had it, it spreads like a wildfire and the oppressed want to be free.

[Massive Lee]

You are stretching it a little. When will you start presenting the US administration as being the same dictatorship as the Egyptian government?