Sick Rantorum

[FunfGan]

What kind of self-esteem lacking teenage girl of a god do you follow? Honestly he creates the entire goddamn universe and gets his panties in a bunch and dooms his creations to an eternity of suffering when they don't acknowledge him even though he doesn't even show himself? The proposition of an Abrahamic god is laughable at best.

You don't read many posts. Did he create evil, bring about sin in the world? No. Does he show himself? Yes. But besides the whole universe around us, any other way he works through people or shows himself will merely be dismissed by most people.

[Frog]

Right.... solid reasoning... [not]

The fundamental core of moral beliefs are shared in majority of religious or non-religious groups. Such that, civil law is easily agreed upon in mature and understanding societies, like in Western Europe. They respect differences better than the US and also leave others be with their personal decisions and don't interfere, like the US originally set out to do. For a lot of the things people take upon themselves to butt into the lives of others here, you'd be ignored or considered very rude in the UK or elsewhere.

At some point, the US fell behind the other Western nations as far as being fair to all and understanding freedom. Up until 1967, the US shared with South Africa's Apartheid and Nazi laws that prohibited interracial relationships, which was based on religious thought that separate races ought to be separate. Similarly, most modern Western cultures have legalized gay marriage, whereas the US - the 'land of the free' and has a established principle of 'separation church and state' bans in most of the country gay marriages. Certainly hypocritical of US.

Right on.



I usually don't argue with religious people, but I have reached my boiling point. I cannot believe that in order to be a republican candidate, you must be a theocrat.

These fools: Mitt, Rick, Newt, should not have the support they are having.. What is crazy, it seems, is that they are almost exaggerating their religious beliefs in order to get elected. Ron Paul is the only one of them all that said that his religious belief would not affect his decisions if he were to be elected. This comes from a Dr, who before, denied evolution and said creationism was real.

[FunfGan]

You need not claim it, for religion already has done so on behalf of its adherents. I could sit here all night linking to sites and ideologies that claim their divine text is "The Word". The books they claim to be divinely inspired, and in many cases the actual direct dictation of God have been touted as the one-stop go-to source for everything humans need to know. Science has been called the enemy for many, many years. How dare it question The Word Of God! How many people who simply dared to question have suffered horribly at the hands of the pious through the centuries?

Exactly.

[cale]

You don't read many posts. Did he create evil, bring about sin in the world? No. Does he show himself? Yes. But besides the whole universe around us, any other way he works through people or shows himself will merely be dismissed by most people.

Or those people can see those "signs" for what they actually are? It's theists who feel the need to put a supernatural spin on that which can be explained much more simply.

He created imperfect beings yet punishes us for being imperfect? Again, illogical proposition is illogical.

[Frog]

You don't read many posts. Did he create evil, bring about sin in the world? No. Does he show himself? Yes. But besides the whole universe around us, any other way he works through people or shows himself will merely be dismissed by most people.

Yeah, all those "miracles" you read about or were preached about, are just made up, embellished, exaggerated stories pass down from story tellers to story tellers and ended up in a book, you call the bible, that is the basis of your religion.

Sorry, not trying to be rude or anything. I know it made me really sad the day I found out that Santa Claus wasn't real.

But yeah, your religion, muslim religion, judaism, etc... They are all just made up fairy tales..

[Frog]

Exactly.

Wait, what?

[FunfGan]

He created perfect beings yet punishes us for being unrepentant?

Fixed it for ya.

Wait, what?

As it says right there, all we need to know. Not all there is to know. The world is an incredibly complex place, and we expect to understand it totally? It doesn't claim to teach all. In fact, it says there are mysteries of the universe we are not meant to know. If we could know all, we could become God.

[cale]

Fixed it for ya.

Why would we have to repent if we are simply acting within our "god given" free will? We are being punished for exercising something which he gifted us with. Keep arguing your illogical beliefs, the rest of us are going to progress as a species.

[rwh11385]

Christian Scientists. What if they wanted to control medical policy of the government and impose their beliefs on everyone?

FunfGan, why did you avoid this question directed at you?

[FunfGan]

Why would we have to repent if we are simply acting within our "god given" free will? We are being punished for exercising something which he gifted us with. Keep arguing your illogical beliefs, the rest of us are going to progress as a species.

We have free will whether we choose to except the mercy. Your misleading questions are not really helping me want to listen to you. God has placed in front of everyone salvation; that in and of itself is a merciful act. We have free will whether or not we choose to listen, so how is God unmerciful for that?

FunfGan, why did you avoid this question directed at you?

My apologies, missed that. As far as an answer? I probably can't give a very good one, as I know of nobody who believes in prayer alone, and therefor have never talked with anybody who believes that. I have certainly heard of those who believe that, but to me it makes no sense. The medicine is there, whether you believe it is because of God or for some other reason, the medicine is there.

[rwh11385]

My apologies, missed that. As far as an answer? I probably can't give a very good one, as I know of nobody who believes in prayer alone, and therefor have never talked with anybody who believes that. I have certainly heard of those who believe that, but to me it makes no sense. The medicine is there, whether you believe it is because of God or for some other reason, the medicine is there.

I know some, and ironically they are always matched up on dating websites with nurses... awkward.

But the question was 'How would you feel if someone else's beliefs (in that medicine is playing God and one must pray to be healed from sickness) was imposed upon you and the American medical policy was determined by Christian Scientist beliefs?'

[cale]

We have free will whether we choose to except the mercy. Your misleading questions are not really helping me want to listen to you. God has placed in front of everyone salvation; that in and of itself is a merciful act. We have free will whether or not we choose to listen, so how is God

And this is unarguable truth because the bible says so? You're right atheism is a religion and you're in a cult. Enjoy the punch.

[mar1t1me]

Exactly.

So, if it isn't in the Bible, we don't really need to know it? Really?

You and Bill O'Reilly must be buds.....;)

[gwb72tii]

any of the republican candidates, which i do not like btw, would be a huge improvement over our esteemed commander in chief community organizer raised by two communist parents

[cale]

You forgot Muslim socialist and whatever else you heard from Glenn Beck.