Fat people Not responsible.

[BraveUlysses]

You can compare this to cigarettes in a way. Pricing and taxing has not curbed smokers from smoking. They just find other ways to find the money to cover their addiction. A lot of fat people use food as an object of comfort just like other addictions.

never go full retard.

hey, these guys never let "facts" get in their way before. :p

It's much easier to scream about personal responsibility instead of dealing with societal problems.

[mrsleeve]

Yes personal responsibility (or lack there of) has nothing to do with issues plaguing society now does it???

[nando]

well, unless you know of a way to make people less stupid/irresponsible..

[BraveUlysses]

well, unless you know of a way to make people less stupid/irresponsible..

It will happen if you keep chanting "personal responsibility"

You just aren't trying hard enough!

[Kershaw]

^ rofl.

props to vdubin for an excellent analogy.

Fat fucks are fat fucks because of themselves.

wow dude. you either have the reading comprehension of a 2 year old or you didnt read the article. let me quote a specific section of it.

And ordinary people don’t particularly want to hear this, either. It’s so easy for someone to go out and eat 6,000 calories a day. There’s no magic bullet on this. You simply have to cut calories and be vigilant for the rest of your life.

it was only the cumulative sentence at the end of the article. i can understand how it would be easy to miss.

[gwb72tii]

it is not easy to go out and eat 6000 calories a day. that's bullshit.
6000 calories is like eating a large plate a fettucine alfredo, 3 or 4 glasses of wine, bacon and eggs for b'fast and a hamburger for lunch. Daily. and somehow personal responsibility doesn't count? I'd argue anyone, regardless of IQ, knows eating like this is bad.nd if they don't then we have natural selection

[CabrioPunk]

While I do agree with you, I assure you there are healthy things you can eat at fast food restaurants. You just have to try a little harder. I'm in college right now, the food they provide at our cafeteria is pretty unhealthy but, there are a few bright spots. Even taco bell has decently healthy food if you order off the fresca menu.

Also, it doesn't take that long to run into the grocery store and buy bread, peanut butter, jelly and some fruit and yogurt.

Real life hasn't started for you yet. See above.. mortgage, spouse, kids, bills, job, etc.

[CabrioPunk]

it is not easy to go out and eat 6000 calories a day. that's bullshit.
6000 calories is like eating a large plate a fettucine alfredo, 3 or 4 glasses of wine, bacon and eggs for b'fast and a hamburger for lunch. Daily. and somehow personal responsibility doesn't count? I'd argue anyone, regardless of IQ, knows eating like this is bad.nd if they don't then we have natural selection

I was taking a weight gainer for a while. 2000 calorie shakes, twice a day. Plus trying to eat on top of that. It was a struggle.

I guess if you are slurping down milkshakes, ordering large fries a few times a day it can add up but 6000 calories is an olympic meal.

[joshh]

^ rofl.

props to vdubin for an excellent analogy.



wow dude. you either have the reading comprehension of a 2 year old or you didnt read the article. let me quote a specific section of it.



it was only the cumulative sentence at the end of the article. i can understand how it would be easy to miss.

Only if you feel people can't control what they put into their own mouths. Stop with the victim routine already. People are victims of fat primarily because they choose to order the big mac, fries, milkshake and three fucking Hersey's pies all in one sitting instead of the salad and water. Thanks to guys like you they can blame their obese arses on the rest of our society.

[joshh]

When governments started taxing the fuck out of cigarettes and started educating people about the risks, the smoking rate dropped. There is no reason it can't work with food.

Are they "taxing the fuck" out of soda here? I don't drink soda very often and still would not support a huge tax.
Taxing in this way is a sign of failure to educate. Having to pass laws directing what your people should and should not eat is the pinnacle of failure of a government.
Plus you're then penalizing all of the people who are not abusing the product in question.
The nanny state is here to rescue everyone from themselves.

It will happen if you keep chanting "personal responsibility"

You just aren't trying hard enough!

Or you just let those who choose to abuse their bodies die.

[nando]

it is not easy to go out and eat 6000 calories a day. that's bullshit.
6000 calories is like eating a large plate a fettucine alfredo, 3 or 4 glasses of wine, bacon and eggs for b'fast and a hamburger for lunch. Daily. and somehow personal responsibility doesn't count? I'd argue anyone, regardless of IQ, knows eating like this is bad.nd if they don't then we have natural selection

really? it's pretty damn easy. a big mac, shake, and large fries is probably 5,000 calories, and that's just one meal (for less than ten bucks). eat a box of doughnuts for breakfast, you still have dinner to make up for any shortfall. you can't say nobody would eat like that, or we wouldn't have people that need to be rescued from their homes with a forklift. people who are morbidly obese can consume 10,000+ calories no problem, and they can't even get out of bed.. explain that to me!

when I train hard, I can consume 5,000 calories and still be starving/losing weight. lol

[joshh]

Big Mac=540 calories. ^You might be thinking sodium?
Large fries=500
Large shake=1160

Total=2200

You'd have to eat that five times in one day to get to 10k calories.

[nando]

I'm seeing 590, 540, and 1160, but whatever. you could easily eat at mcdonalds for every meal, and you can bet people that weigh 500+lbs eat more than one portion at a sitting. they have to.

it's not difficult *at all* to overconsume. we already know people are irresponsible. so what do you fix? the crappy food or the stupid people? how are you going to force people to be responsible? shoot everyone who you don't like? oh, wait.. :p

[joshh]

I'm seeing 590, 540, and 1160, but whatever. you could easily eat at mcdonalds for every meal, and you can bet people that weigh 500+lbs eat more than one portion at a sitting. they have to.

it's not difficult *at all* to overconsume. we already know people are irresponsible. so what do you fix? the crappy food or the stupid people? how are you going to force people to be responsible? shoot everyone who you don't like? oh, wait.. :p

That meal alone is already over consuming for the average individual.
You can't force people to be responsible. You let them die...
Unless of course they take some responsibility to do something about it. Then as a friend or family member you help them. It's not governments roll to help fatties become less fat.

[Farbin Kaiber]

Five years ago, when I decided to calculate my intake, I was averaging 7-9,000/day six days a week while working 13h/day and thought I didn't have enough time to prepare food for myself.

Morning
Monster Java's x2 400cal
Hostess Struessel Cake 3 rolls 540cal
Subway Egg/bacon Cheese 12" 896cal
32oz Soda 267cal
Zingers 450cal
Assorted Muffin 465cal
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Breakfasttime 3018cal

Lunch

Subway Chicken Bacon/Ranch 12' 1154cal
32oz Soda 267cal
Bag of Chips 390cal
Monster Java's x2 400cal
Assorted Snack Cake 450cal
___________________
Lunch convenience store run 2661cal


Right there, that is over 5,500 calories without counting dinnertime, not counting if I made a late afternoon Jack-In-The-Box run, also not counting the 2 packs of cigarettes a day I was smoking, nor the high stress environment. Fuck, I was killing myself, I don't know how I thought I wasn't gonna die doing that.

It's a whole lot easier to be a fat unhealthy slob than it is to do things the right way if you've grown up in/or matured in a shitty food society.

It's a lot of work to eat healthy, it's more expensive to buy high nutrient foods, they go bad faster, it's hard to adapt to them after high processed flour/high sugar content diets, but it will change your life, and give you the ability to eat to live as opposed to living to eat.