Is there a god?

[cale]

God didnt Poof. He was and He is.

Makes total sense! The most complex entity imaginable can exist of it's own creation but you say it's impossible for elementary particles in their simplest form to exist without a creating force, which there most likely is but you refute it based on the fact that we cannot yet tell you what it is.

I'm not sure how I haven't made the switch to religion yet, it makes so much sense.

[slammin.e28]

If the e30 is God's chariot, then there must be a God! ;)

What if the e30.....





......is not god's chariot?

[tonerrrr]

If the e30 is God's chariot, then there must be a God! ;)

[IRON-E]

If the e30 is God's chariot, then there must be a God! ;)

[slammin.e28]

[herbivor]

If there is a God, it will be the scientists that prove it. Until then, why give a shit?

[Xat1cZ]

God didnt Poof. He was and He is.

even if i could explain to you even the slightest of what or who God is. we could not understand it. God is not bound by anything. He is the one that created those bounds in the first place. and the very effort of explaining God is pointless because we could never get anywhere.

Thanks for the entertainment..



But in my humble opinion was Walt Disney a better fairytale writer than those who wrote the bible

[z31maniac]

Perfect example of the insanity:

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/education/how-american-fundamentalist-schools-are-using-nessie-to-disprove-evolution.17918511

And one of my favorite quotes:

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?

[z31maniac]

As long as you Godfags don't try to make the rest of us live by the same self-imposed rules of your insanity, I couldn't care less.

[mrsleeve]

have not read thread. Conclusion. O.P. is troll, and doing nothing but stirring the pot

[LBJefferies]

That's utterly ridiculous. Human flight without any sort of external assistance is impossible on Earth. I am still perfectly capable of comprehending both the action and implications of that sort of flight.

Flight is a pretty narrow concept. We know what physical forces make it possible, we know how to predict movement using math and most of all, we can get inside of an airplane and fly around the world. We have a very good perspective on it and it's safe to say we understand it pretty well. I would never say we understand it perfectly though, because while we know which physical laws act upon it, we don't know why these physical laws exist in the first place. There is a limit to our understanding. I think it's arrogant to think that our feeble minds could ever understand every inch of the universe. We would have to be gods ourselves.

[Cliche Guevara]

That's utterly ridiculous. Human flight without any sort of external assistance is impossible on Earth. I am still perfectly capable of comprehending both the action and implications of that sort of flight.

[LBJefferies]

It's perfectly reasonable to say that god is a very vague concept and can be many different things to different people. That said, there is a core set of traits that people bestow upon their personal idea of god that is somewhat universal. That is the god that our major religions purport to pray to.

And even those core traits are pretty hard to define. All knowing, all good, existing everywhere, etc. Do you honestly understand these concepts? Of course you don't. It's impossible to know everything, it's impossible to be everywhere, there is no such thing as good/bad. It's impossible to understand the impossible. And you can't argue about things you can't understand.

God is an entirely human creation. 100% manufactured so we could have something to talk about around the camp fire.

That is not to say that there is not a god, but I am not going to be so arrogant as to explain what he is. He's entirely incomprehensible.

[Cliche Guevara]

Do you at least understand what I am saying though? I want to make sure that this VERY important idea is getting through to you.

It's perfectly reasonable to say that god is a very vague concept and can be many different things to different people. That said, there is a core set of traits that people bestow upon their personal idea of god that is somewhat universal. That is the god that our major religions purport to pray to.

[LBJefferies]

I've given you your damned definition, saying that I haven't doesn't make that the case. Let's move on.

Do you at least understand what I am saying though? I want to make sure that this VERY important idea is getting through to you.