No one needs 15 rounds

[LSM3]

How do you step outside very day and not kill a bunch of innocent people trying to save all of them?

Because (thank the lord) ive never been put in that situation. It blows my mind that people think its better to let a shooter kill people then to even ATTEMPT to fire back. WOW

[marshallnoise]

Maybe your right. Maybe its a bygone era when people put others before themselves.i guess its left to the military and first responders.

Who only do what they do because they are paid. They are mercenaries, not volunteers. They weigh the potential cost of their life in exchange for compensation or other benefits.

Am I wrong? No. Harsh? Yes.

[LSM3]

I am not a collectivist, so...Yeah, I don't agree with the idea that I am everyone's protector. It takes a village...

Maybe your right. Maybe its a bygone era when people put others before themselves.i guess its left to the military and first responders.

[marshallnoise]

How do you step outside every day?

How do you step outside very day and not kill a bunch of innocent people trying to save all of them?

[LSM3]

So, let's say you decide to "unload" on the baddy, a few stray rounds hit an innocent bystander, then the shooter turns, takes you out. Now you leave your wife and family (assuming you have some) alone and with a massive lawsuit due to your negligence. I'm sure the fact that you were being a hero and helping others will really console your family. If you choose to take that route, good for you, but calling others out in an inflammatory way for not sharing your lackadaisical approach to real life ramifications is offensive.

How do you step outside every day?

[marshallnoise]

If you are calling someone Rambo who decides to put their life on the line for the sake of innocent children then your standards are damn low. How is it absurd when we have school shootings EVERY OTHER MONTH?

Every person for themselves. Lol. Again thats EXACTLY thats wrong with this country.

I am not a collectivist, so...Yeah, I don't agree with the idea that I am everyone's protector. It takes a village...

[marshallnoise]

So, let's say you decide to "unload" on the baddy, a few stray rounds hit an innocent bystander, then the shooter turns, takes you out. Now you leave your wife and family (assuming you have some) alone and with a massive lawsuit due to your negligence. I'm sure the fact that you were being a hero and helping others will really console your family. If you choose to take that route, good for you, but calling others out in an inflammatory way for not sharing your lackadaisical approach to real life ramifications is offensive.

And stupid. Really, really dumb.

[LSM3]

Ok Rambo. If we're going to take this discussion to absurdum...if I'm in the mall and a gunman has a group of children backed into a corner and I have a clear shot I'll run to their rescue. In that .000001 situation, sure. Otherwise, every able bodied adult for themselves, if they choose to be unprepared then that's not on my conscience.

If you are calling someone Rambo who decides to put their life on the line for the sake of innocent children then your standards are damn low. How is it absurd when we have school shootings EVERY OTHER MONTH?

Every person for themselves. Lol. Again thats EXACTLY thats wrong with this country.

[ParsedOut]

Its not about valor. Its about helping others. I responded to a comment about ONLY using a ccw to protect YOURSELF if you are cornered with nowhere to run. Its hard to evaluate if you can help if you are running out a door. Which ones worse.?

1. Letting a gunman shoot and kill people at will?

2. Firing at the gunman with the possibility of hitting a bystander?

Ill go with #2 and im going to guess that someone staring down the barrel of a killers gun would go with #2 as well....

So, let's say you decide to "unload" on the baddy, a few stray rounds hit an innocent bystander, then the shooter turns, takes you out. Now you leave your wife and family (assuming you have some) alone and with a massive lawsuit due to your negligence. I'm sure the fact that you were being a hero and helping others will really console your family. If you choose to take that route, good for you, but calling others out in an inflammatory way for not sharing your lackadaisical approach to real life ramifications is offensive.

[LSM3]

How come you ignore the potential for other loss of life? It is like you don't even think that is a possibility and you'll be able to win the battle every time? Discretion is the better part of valor, no?

Its not about valor. Its about helping others. I responded to a comment about ONLY using a ccw to protect YOURSELF if you are cornered with nowhere to run. Its hard to evaluate if you can help if you are running out a door. Which ones worse.?

1. Letting a gunman shoot and kill people at will?

2. Firing at the gunman with the possibility of hitting a bystander?

Ill go with #2 and im going to guess that someone staring down the barrel of a killers gun would go with #2 as well....

[ParsedOut]

And you guys are with your kids 24/7 at school. Shootings NEVER happen at schools. So i go to pick up MY kids and there is an active shooter at my kids school. FUCK those kids. THEY AINT MINE. Forgive me for believing as a society WE SHOULD PROTECT EACH OTHER.

Ok Rambo. If we're going to take this discussion to absurdum...if I'm in the mall and a gunman has a group of children backed into a corner and I have a clear shot I'll run to their rescue. In that .000001 situation, sure. Otherwise, every able bodied adult for themselves, if they choose to be unprepared then that's not on my conscience.

[marshallnoise]

It's ok, he's delusional and we're pussies. Those who live, win at life.

We are what we eat I suppose. ;D

[marshallnoise]

And you guys are with your kids 24/7 at school. Shootings NEVER happen at schools. So i go to pick up MY kids and there is an active shooter at my kids school. FUCK those kids. THEY AINT MINE. Forgive me for believing as a society WE SHOULD PROTECT EACH OTHER.

If you can without killing anyone else, yeah. Shoot your heart out.

But that is a BIG if.

[ParsedOut]

How come you ignore the potential for other loss of life? It is like you don't even think that is a possibility and you'll be able to win the battle every time? Discretion is the better part of valor, no?

It's ok, he's delusional and we're pussies. Those who live, win at life.

[LSM3]

Not that it's any of your business, but my wife also carries. She can defend herself and our kids just fine thank you very much.

And you guys are with your kids 24/7 at school. Shootings NEVER happen at schools. So i go to pick up MY kids and there is an active shooter at my kids school. FUCK those kids. THEY AINT MINE. Forgive me for believing as a society WE SHOULD PROTECT EACH OTHER.