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  • sgtskid
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    • Oct 2010
    • 701

    #121
    I find the title of this thread interesting in that it specifically calls out Muslim refugees.
    So it would be okay or not okay if the US accepted Christian refugees? Who decides what religion the refugee is? Based on asking the refugee? One day I could be Catholic the next day Jewish, Muslim, Atheist...I could answer that question a million different ways.

    The states blocking the immigration of refugees is more symbolic than anything. In the end, there is little a state can do to block someone from entering their state once they have arrived on US soil.
    There was an interesting article published by the Washington Post that questions whether or not having the world all tied up with Islamaphobia is exactly what ISIS plan is. The article makes sense, ISIS is selling hate against western civilizations in an attempt to promote their radical and misconstrued views. ISIS then says "we told you so" after all the refugees are blocked from the boarders and persecuted in the countries they immigrate to.

    Which leads me to:
    The broad painting that all Muslims are evil and that Mosques should be shut down is getting ridiculous. These crackheads represent Islam no more than Jim Jones, the KKK, Mormon kid camps, or Westboro Baptist represent Christianity. Does the riots in Ferguson and looting in New Orleans represent all Blacks? ISIS starts with an ideology and twists it for personal gain (much like Jim Jones or the KKK). They then package it nicely and sell it. People who are hopeless, hungry, homeless, persecuted, ostracized..etc, eat that shit up with the promise of food, shelter, land, friends, women...

    So why are all the refugees military aged men carrying cell phones? Simple - the media takes the photos and posts the photos that carries their agenda. According to a UN website there are over 4 million Syrian refugees with slightly over half being female. As for cell phones...hell, homeless people in the U.S. have cell phones - moot point.

    With ALLLLLL the above being said - Do I think we should accept refugees? Sure - pending they go through the SAME process that other legal immigrants have to go through to get here and provided they can become contributing members of society.

    So for Order of the Flying Spaghetti Monster's sake, stop drinking the grape kool-aid and believing all the Facebook, "like" whoring, drama queens generating meme's to garner attention for their pages.

    References:



    Here are five reasons and explanations of why the majority of Syrian refugees who reach Europe are men. The danger of the trip is just part of the reason.



    Republican presidential candidates Ben Carson and Scott Walker, who oppose President Obama's plan to accept 10,000 Syrian refugees, stretched the facts to support their policy position.
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    • marshallnoise
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      • Sep 2013
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      #122
      Easy solution: stop all immigration until stringent background checks can be put in place. It's no longer about Syrians but it's about the whole process. It's bad enough we can't stop homegrown terrorists but we should be able to stop importing them at the very least.

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      • TimKninja
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        • Mar 2009
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        #123
        Originally posted by Wschnitz
        Pretty hilarious those state governments don't know how it works, what are they gonna do, block their borders? Lol.

        I think a greater push for integration needs to be made so we don't suffer the issues Europe is suffering. In Washington there are many different cultures and groups, without much of a culture clash, The same can happen with proper planning and time with these refugees, which honestly have no where to go. They cant farm because the middle east is fucked by climate change, and they cant go to the cities cause they are bombed to fuck.
        I agree with this 100%. its gotten to the point were some countries are offering cash bonuses for Muslims who integrate/mate with other races.

        I read somewhere today that it is in the Constitution that we have to let Refugees in.
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        • Wschnitz
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          • Dec 2011
          • 8089

          #124
          I don't know if its in the constitution but I thought it was an agreement of UN or Nato or something, that you had to let refugees of war or climate change in.
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          • BraveUlysses
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            • Jun 2007
            • 3781

            #125
            No, it's not in the constitution (are you guys fucking serious? read it)

            Part of the reason we accept refugees is due to historical reasons (WW2) and due the UN and our immigration laws.



            The Convention builds on Article 14 of the 1948 Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which recognizes the right of persons to seek asylum from persecution in other countries. A refugee may enjoy rights and benefits in a state in addition to those provided for in the Convention.

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            • Vedubin01
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              • Jun 2006
              • 5852

              #126
              Ill just leave this here.

              http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/18/at...al-immigrants/

              http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/17/no...rror-suspects/

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              • TimKninja
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                • Mar 2009
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                #127
                Originally posted by BraveUlysses
                No, it's not in the constitution (are you guys fucking serious? read it)

                Part of the reason we accept refugees is due to historical reasons (WW2) and due the UN and our immigration laws.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conven...us_of_Refugees
                I heard it was from a dude that normally says intelligent things. Thank you for clearing that up .
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                • sgtskid
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                  #128
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                  • goarmy
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                    • Nov 2011
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                    #129
                    ^^^That's alarming, I didn't know their were women terrorist too..

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                    • BraveUlysses
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                      • Jun 2007
                      • 3781

                      #130
                      Originally posted by goarmy
                      ^^^That's alarming, I didn't know their were women terrorist too..
                      Still quite rare but yes, they do exist, the term for them is called shahidka

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                      • Dozyproductions
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                        • Jan 2007
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                        #131

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                        • kickinindian
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                          • Jan 2012
                          • 2327

                          #132
                          because the Imperialist western nations destabilizing the region in the early 20th century by randomly drawing borders was not the reason in the first place for all this shit sand balling into a huge global problem.

                          dont get me wrong i dont like all this shit and it cant really be justified, but this is western nations dealing with long term unintended consequences that we are gonna have to deal with in an ugly brutal way if the west wants to hold on to their way of life. we cant come out of fixing the "muslim problem" by making everyone happy and getting good guy erections. ill use native americans as an example. the US will never admit to a genocide of a whole continent, but to continue the progress of its expansion, the native population ether had to assimilate( freely or by force) or fight (which as we all see didnt turn out too well). its going to get to a point with europe, that they ether need to be the bad guys and boot all the middle east immigrants, or make them attend assimilation programs to show them that europe has a different culture than your own. ether you understand that or you go home. or just open your arms to all and understand you are no longer going to be a eurocentric goverment, your home populace will not be the majority, and you start to live in a culture.

                          its not just a "liberal" or "conservative" problem its not thinking of your long term consequences as large influential governments as a whole.
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                          • Kershaw
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                            • Feb 2010
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                            #133
                            Early 20th century? Haha. Dude, ISIS is a product of the Gulf War and Operation Iraqi Freedom. It's much more recent than that. We can thank the Bushes for ISIS.

                            Originally posted by marshallnoise
                            Easy solution: stop all immigration until stringent background checks can be put in place. It's no longer about Syrians but it's about the whole process. It's bad enough we can't stop homegrown terrorists but we should be able to stop importing them at the very least.

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                            LOL. OK. Because the immigration process is not slow enough.
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                            • marshallnoise
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                              • Sep 2013
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                              #134
                              Originally posted by Kershaw
                              Early 20th century? Haha. Dude, ISIS is a product of the Gulf War and Operation Iraqi Freedom. It's much more recent than that. We can thank the Bushes for ISIS.



                              LOL. OK. Because the immigration process is not slow enough.
                              Radical Islam gained prominence with the fall of the Shah.

                              We are not obligated by any law of the United States to allow people to immigrate. So expediting immigration at the cost of lax security is a foolhardy venture.

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                              • kickinindian
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                                #135
                                Originally posted by Kershaw
                                Early 20th century? Haha. Dude, ISIS is a product of the Gulf War and Operation Iraqi Freedom. It's much more recent than that. We can thank the Bushes for ISIS.
                                its is but that was not the only reason this happened, ISIS would not have formed if it was not for the long time ethic problems in the region, which is why i said sandballing. alot of different stuff had to happen for the dominos to be lined up to make the US get involved.

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