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  • Kershaw
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    • Feb 2010
    • 11822

    #136
    Originally posted by marshallnoise
    Radical Islam gained prominence with the fall of the Shah.
    I'm not disagreeing with Iran being radicalized by the CIA. But think about what you're saying. Where is ISIS located? Iraq or Iran? Iraq used to be a very secular country under Saddam.

    I thought this was a pretty good post about the middle east although it starts with mentioning why Pakistan is shitty, corrupt, and sheltered Bin Laden.

    Fun fact 2. Pakistan is probably the largest and primary victim of terrorism itself. The media fails to report on it. Pray for Paris is great and all but what about the recent massacre of a Pakistani school full of children. This selective prayer bs really gets to me. What about the thousands of muslims dying from the hands of Isis and other organizations?
    Pakistan and muslims are primary targets and have far more casualties by terrorists then anyone else. What's funny is all these organizations link back to creation by the US or UK.
    The US and UK governments were dedicated to undermining and overthrowing the secular nationalist Egyptian President Nasser so they funded Islamist organizations such as the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.
    In Afghanistan, the Western governments funded the extremist Mujahadeen. Afghanistan used to be a secular, progressive country where women could vote before 1979. Remember our buddy old pal, Usama?
    The Western governments also support the most extreme radical Islamists of them all, the Wahabbi Saudis, whose madrasas pump out thousands of clerics who travel to all corners of the Muslim world to spread this ideology.
    In fact, virtually every radical Islamic group today, from AL-Qaeda to Hamas has their roots in collaboration with Washington and London.
    In his book, 'Secret Affairs: Britain’s Secret Collusion with Radical Islam', Mark Curtis goes through the history of the region in meticulous detail. Curtis found that, far from being enemies, virtually every major radical Islamist group has been nurtured, trained and funded by Britain for five reasons:
    “As a global counterforce to the ideologies of secular nationalism and Soviet communism”
    “As “conservative muscle” within countries to undermine secular nationalists and bolster pro-Western regimes”
    “As “shock troops” to destabilise or overthrow governments”
    “As proxy military forces to fight wars”
    “As political tools to leverage change from governments”.
    The two British objectives in installing or maintaining radical Islamists in power are:
    “Influence and control of key energy resources, always recognised in the British planning documents as the number one priority in the Middle East.”
    “Maintaining Britain’s place within a pro-Western global financial order.”
    In the 1990s and 2000s the UK and US embarked upon massive wars and occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan, killing millions and completely destroying societies. This is at the heart of the rise of extremism in the region. It should be noted that ISIS' heartland is in what was, until the 2000s, the most secular part of the Middle East, Iraq and Syria. However, those countries have been so destroyed as to leave much of the population feeling there is no hope, and have proven a fertile recruiting ground for ISIS.
    In other words, the governments of the UK and US have funded and trained radical groups in order to better control the resources of the region. The fact that this has made their citizens far less safe is of little consequence to them, and of even less consequence, the lives of the people of the Middle East. This obviously isn't all there is to say on the topic of extremism, but I think it's an important factor.
    Therefore i leave you educated in this matter just a bit more. Islam is a scapegoat these terrorists are using and it happens to be the only lifeline and hope many of these victims have. Do not forget in the process we killed millions to clear our way, in return we left many orphans and family members who seek revenge. Pray for the world and fuck terrorists and those involved in creating them.
    As I finish typing this, remember that many muslims just died that you will not hear about by the hands of Isis and other inhumane breeds of animals. Please do not be ignorant and blame billions of muslims.
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    • goarmy
      Mod Crazy
      • Nov 2011
      • 622

      #137
      ^^ a lot of heart and hurt went on that post..

      check this one from today, women are slaves and 8 and 9 year old's are raped..

      ISIS still holds some 2,000 Yazidi women and girls, according to community leaders. Here some of the survivors and family members speak out.


      am sure theirs a lot of animosity that can turn to hate but what do you do??

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      • raudonis
        Advanced Member
        • Jan 2013
        • 184

        #138
        Interesting read http://raisingupastandard.ning.com/m...gPost%3A148542

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        • aegul44
          Grease Monkey
          • Apr 2015
          • 396

          #139
          Originally posted by raudonis
          Interesting read http://raisingupastandard.ning.com/m...gPost%3A148542

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          Ohh here we go, another hate reading against Muslims. When are gonna stop posting stuff like this ? Seriously aren't we all tired of hearing all those blames against one group of people. Please stop acting like you are the ones who are most affected by these barbaric creatues. I can show you thousands of picture of muslim kids women,innocent people killed by ISIS in middle east.
          If they are really a Islamic State:
          1. Why they kill hundreds of muslims everyday?
          2. How come they bomb Mosques ?
          3. Why they never fight with Israel ?
          4. Why we can't answer these questions ?

          When we try to answer those questions in your perspective we find ourselves in a big dilemma. Muslim torturing muslims and islamic values make no single sense. Even first grades can tell the difference right. so, a person must be blind or lost his/her mind to believe that ISIS represent Islam.

          Response to the killing of innocent civillians in the name of islam.

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          • cale
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            • Oct 2005
            • 2331

            #140
            No one is claiming they're the sole victims, however the suffering of other nations doesn't make the attacks perpetrated against the west any less serious. They're terrible people who pose a threat to anyone who wants to live a peaceful life, the west and middle-east included. The reality is I know that attacks take place on a near daily basis throughout the middle-east, I don't need to see it every day on the news to realize that place is fucked up. When those attacks get closer to home, you best believe I take notice. I most certainly have more concern for my own countrymen than I do for those who unfortunately live among these animals.

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            • aegul44
              Grease Monkey
              • Apr 2015
              • 396

              #141
              Originally posted by cale
              I most certainly have more concern for my own countrymen than I do for those who unfortunately live among these animals.
              Thats the biggest problem with countries who consider themselves western. why never speak out or help those in need? Why it is not a big deal when the person dying is not one of us? We only start complaining about things when it only touches of us. Why not just speak out and help no matter what that person's race, religion or country ? Are we really that self-absorbed ?

              The problem with this thread is that its not just refugees, its "Muslim refugees". There is a purpose of doing it. People come here with stereotypes and ignorance and spill out hatred against muslims. Agree or not, thats what I see from the posts.

              Saying "muslim terrorists" is a wrong statement and I explained that in here few pages earlier. TERRORISM HAS NO RELIGION.

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              • marshallnoise
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                • Sep 2013
                • 3148

                #142
                Originally posted by aegul44
                Thats the biggest problem with countries who consider themselves western. why never speak out or help those in need? Why it is not a big deal when the person dying is not one of us? We only start complaining about things when it only touches of us. Why not just speak out and help no matter what that person's race, religion or country ? Are we really that self-absorbed ?

                The problem with this thread is that its not just refugees, its "Muslim refugees". There is a purpose of doing it. People come here with stereotypes and ignorance and spill out hatred against muslims. Agree or not, thats what I see from the posts.

                Saying "muslim terrorists" is a wrong statement and I explained that in here few pages earlier. TERRORISM HAS NO RELIGION.
                This is a crock of shit. The middle east only help themselves. Fuck you and your weak ass guilt trip crap.

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                • aegul44
                  Grease Monkey
                  • Apr 2015
                  • 396

                  #143
                  Originally posted by marshallnoise
                  This is a crock of shit. The middle east only help themselves. Fuck you and your weak ass guilt trip crap.

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                  Why you get mad buddy ? You call it weak ass guilt trip but we, the humans call it humanity. Stop acting like wanna be drooly bush soldier, who does nothing but bring shame to this world. Don't get mad for people telling you the reality. World had enough of you, don't forget there is a justice whether in here or there and truth will always arise.

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                  • marshallnoise
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                    • Sep 2013
                    • 3148

                    #144
                    Originally posted by aegul44
                    Why you get mad buddy ? You call it weak ass guilt trip but we, the humans call it humanity. Stop acting like wanna be drooly bush soldier, who does nothing but bring shame to this world. Don't get mad for people telling you the reality. World had enough of you, don't forget there is a justice whether in here or there and truth will always arise.
                    What does that even mean?

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                    • anabolice30
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                      • Jul 2013
                      • 946

                      #145
                      I think we should bring them in because diversity is our greatest strength, and the muslim religion is perfectly sligned with our liberal progressive values. Women and homosexuals have nothing to worry about. My college professor told me about how tolerant the Ottoman Empire was. Maybe one day our sons will become elite Jannisaries, and our daughters will be pampered harem girls in the coming United Kaliphate of America.

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                      • aegul44
                        Grease Monkey
                        • Apr 2015
                        • 396

                        #146
                        Originally posted by marshallnoise
                        What does that even mean?

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                        I assume you didn't understand "whether in here or there" part. That means either in this world or after death life.

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                        • marshallnoise
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                          • Sep 2013
                          • 3148

                          #147
                          Originally posted by aegul44
                          I assume you didn't understand "whether in here or there" part. That means either in this world or after death life.
                          No no no. I got that. What your response meant was what I called into question.

                          You basically doubled down on your assertion that everyone besides western nations have compassion. And that is a gross misrepresentation of history, fact, truth and reality. You clearly live outside the latter.

                          Extreme Islamic nations are and have been the scourge of the earth since the religion was politicised. They act out of fear and control in a manner that makes me long for the days of irrational Russian fear of being conquered. I could actually make some sense out of their fears.

                          Instead we deal with inbred Muslims that have eliminated a frontal lobe from their gene pool. It sucks. They are literally breeding ignorance and deception into their people.

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                          • E3o's_r_us
                            Banned
                            • Nov 2015
                            • 45

                            #148
                            Every Muslim that comes into this country has the potential to be radicalized — and they do their killing to honor their religion and Muhammad. During World War 2, we didn’t allow Japanese to immigrate to America, nor did we allow Germans. Why are we allowing Muslims now? Do you agree? Let your Congressman know that we’ve got to put a stop to this and close the flood gates.

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                            • aegul44
                              Grease Monkey
                              • Apr 2015
                              • 396

                              #149
                              Originally posted by marshallnoise
                              No no no. I got that. What your response meant was what I called into question.

                              You basically doubled down on your assertion that everyone besides western nations have compassion. And that is a gross misrepresentation of history, fact, truth and reality. You clearly live outside the latter.

                              Extreme Islamic nations are and have been the scourge of the earth since the religion was politicised. They act out of fear and control in a manner that makes me long for the days of irrational Russian fear of being conquered. I could actually make some sense out of their fears.

                              Instead we deal with inbred Muslims that have eliminated a frontal lobe from their gene pool. It sucks. They are literally breeding ignorance and deception into their people.

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                              See how you responded over to my generalization and called it gross misrepresentation of history and etc. Thats exactly how the muslims feel when you guys call all muslims potential terrorists. It doesn't feel fair right. Its okay to call muslims potential terrorist but we can't say countries who consider them western don't have compassion. Thats way more than double standards.

                              When we say western countries, we image modern lifestyle, modern art, quality life standards, educated people with open minds who are open to world around them and accept every individuals because they are human, whether they are gay, lesbian, black, white,etc. Thats what makes western countries western. Accepting every individual. Being sensitive about world, unfortunaly, western countries failed on that. They never cared about others unless ISIS stepped on their feet. Thats exactly what happened with these refugees. Thats why EU and U.S decided to pay for refugees to keep them in Turkey. How sensitive is that? We don't want them here just take that money keep them away from us. Ohh muslims, just keep them.

                              ISIS is just a puppet to fuck up middle east and impose islamophobia. If world is really tired of these terrorist and their treats why don't they gather up and blow their asses. I guarantee you it would take less then a day to do it. Why france doesn't respond back to terrorist while Russians come all the way up from there.

                              I say that again there are countries in this world who gain favor in this mess. If we are really serious about this, lets go affer the countries who supply them weapons and money, so we all can see the real terrorist that cause problem in our world.

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                              • aegul44
                                Grease Monkey
                                • Apr 2015
                                • 396

                                #150
                                Originally posted by E3o's_r_us
                                Every Muslim that comes into this country has the potential to be radicalized — and they do their killing to honor their religion and Muhammad. During World War 2, we didn’t allow Japanese to immigrate to America, nor did we allow Germans. Why are we allowing Muslims now? Do you agree? Let your Congressman know that we’ve got to put a stop to this and close the flood gates.
                                Ignorant, ignorant, ignorant You have the potential to be radicalized because your ingorance is great tool make you one, people like you are easy to fool. You are a great example of how people in middle east become part of ISIS. They are ignorants of the true meaning of Islam like You are ignorant about history and around the world. First of all, those people that you call radicalized, Muslims didn't start WWI nor WW2. Muslim countries didn't even fought in WW2 except few. Yes when it comes to defending your land, muslims do in it the name of Allah because Allah orders them to defend their lands and their religion. There is nothing wrong with it. You do it in the name of patriotism, they call it different. Only differece is the pills. Do yourself a favor and stop posting threads like "bored at school". Listen to your teachers, study. Ignorance is your biggest enemy.

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