Standing Rock vs Dakota pipeline

[decay]

then be scared. that's what your new administration wants, anyway.

[naplesE30]

Your logic is slippery and scary. No end to the justification if you stay on that path.

[decay]

Decay, what your movement did is the equivalent of cutting the brake lines on a car, and then saying because the owner saw it before he drove its no big deal, and we were justified in doing it because there is a slim chance the owner may drive drunk sometime in the future.

it's not a slim chance. there was a pipeline leak elsewhere in north dakota while i was there. this shit happens all the time, it's just not publicized.

and having seen your latter post; i'm sorry dude, but that's completely a false equivalency.

[naplesE30]

Decay, you have no right to be angry over your stolen computer earlier in this thread after that gross misinterpretation of a MLK quote.How the heck can you say we should disregard property rights and bitch about stolen property in the same thread. Dude you need some self awareness.

[naplesE30]

Decay, what your movement did is the equivalent of cutting the brake lines on a car, and then saying because the owner saw it before he drove its no big deal, and we were justified in doing it because there is a slim chance the owner may drive drunk sometime in the future.

[marshallnoise]

"One has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws." -MLKjr

Well, that's cute. And irrelevant.

[decay]

"One has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws." -MLKjr

[marshallnoise]

again, you're wrong to characterize it that way.

sabotage? yes, it is that. but no disaster happened, and your hyperbole isn't really doing anything other than making you look silly.

what did you think was going to happen when the army corps of engineers (you know, the people we trust to have the final say on this sort of thing) recommended a review of the situation and drumpf overrode it with an EO?

I am not characterizing anything. The attempt was to destroy property in a manner as to cause a failure in the pipe which very obviously would lead to the environment being destroyed. Just because it failed, that doesn't change the intent.

Its like attempting to rob a house but stopping because the lock wouldn't budge. Was it still attempted robbery? Uh, duh. Yes!

I am pretty sure you are the one looking silly for defending this type of action. Your rationale essentially says that humans were compelled to vandalize/destroy property. That's crazy talk.

[decay]

Oh yeah, I know that. But you weren't there when this environmental disaster attempt was carried out, right?

again, you're wrong to characterize it that way.

sabotage? yes, it is that. but no disaster happened, and your hyperbole isn't really doing anything other than making you look silly.

what did you think was going to happen when the army corps of engineers (you know, the people we trust to have the final say on this sort of thing) recommended a review of the situation and drumpf overrode it with an EO?

[marshallnoise]

uh, you know i *was* there, with the veterans' camp, right?

Oh yeah, I know that. But you weren't there when this environmental disaster attempt was carried out, right?

[decay]

Because your friends failed. Had you been there, I am sure your military experience would have been leveraged into a successful disaster.

EDIT: I am trolling you hard bro.

uh, you know i *was* there, with the veterans' camp, right?

i bought body armor, rented a Land Cruiser, and drove across the country. i got put on detail building those shelters you saw on fire in the news a couple weeks back.

[marshallnoise]

uh, there was no disaster, unless you consider a delay in the pipeline entering operation to be such a thing.

Because your friends failed. Had you been there, I am sure your military experience would have been leveraged into a successful disaster.

EDIT: I am trolling you hard bro.

[decay]

Attempting to create an environmental disaster to stop another environmental disaster is still an environmental disaster and is just plain irresponsible behavior, there is no justification.

People have become so blinded.

uh, there was no disaster, unless you consider a delay in the pipeline entering operation to be such a thing.

[ForcedFirebird]

There is justification: If you are paranoid that a disaster will happen and everyone tells you that you are paranoid, you go out and make it happen so you can tell everyone they were wrong.

Its a mental disorder, flat out.

Self fulfilling prophecy...

A self-fulfilling prophecy is a prediction that directly or indirectly causes itself to become true, by the very terms of the prophecy itself, due to positive feedback between belief and behavior.

[marshallnoise]

stalin and castro, noted vandals

gwb has got your dick hard, huh? You just love it! ;D